Posted on 03/06/2006 11:29:39 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
The last Freeper Research Project on Freeper personality types is currently being compiled and will be posted soon.
Meanwhile, we are embarking on a new survey to determine what Freepers believe is the end of all that there is.:
Teleology is the study of final causes, the end results.
Freepers’ answers will no doubt be strongly related to personal religious beliefs - but this is not a religion thread!
Here we are simply doing a survey of Freeper views on the subject.
Please consider the following list of beliefs and end time scenarios and then post which of them would apply to you, or if you believe something else - then please give a short description of what you believe.
If you spot an error in my definitions, please let me know.
Thank you so much for your participation in this survey!!!
Christianity (paraphrased from this webpage)
Historical Premillennialism: The Antichrist appears on earth before the seven year Tribulation begins. Rapture follows tribulation. Christ and his Church return to earth to rule for a Millennium. The forces of evil are conquered. The faithful live during the thousand years in Jerusalem, while occupying spiritual bodies. After the millennium, all people are judged and the faithful spend eternity on a new earth (not in heaven).
Dispensational Premillennialism: (a.k.a. Dispensationalism) The Tribulation precedes the second coming of Christ, and the subsequent establishment of the millennial kingdom -- a thousand-year golden age on Earth under the authority of Christ. Afterwards, in a brief, final battle, Satan is permanently conquered. The Final Judgment follows the millennium.
Pre-Tribulation Rapture: (or "pre-trib") The Rapture happens just before the Tribulation, so that believers will not have to experience any of its disruption and pain.
Post-tribulation Rapture: (or "post-trib") The faithful experience the full horrors of the entire Tribulation and are raptured only at the end of the 7 years.
Mid-Tribulation Rapture: (or "mid-trib") The Rapture happens 42 months into the Tribulation. Up to that time, the Antichrist brings peace to the world. After 42 months, events take a sudden turn for the worse.
Pre-wrath Rapture: That the church must experience most of the Tribulation, and then be raptured towards the end of the Tribulation period.
Partial Rapture: The faithful born-again believers are raptured just before the Tribulation. Newly born again believers are raptured during or at the end of the Tribulation.
Amillennialism: (Also known as Nonmillennialism). The Kingdom of God is present in the world today through the presence of the heavenly reign of Christ, the Bible, the Holy Spirit and Christianity. Both good and evil will continue in the world until the current Church Age ends suddenly as Christ returns to the sky above the earth. The Rapture follows. The Redeemed are transported to heaven where they will adopt spiritual bodies. The majority of humanity will be sent to Hell at this time for eternal punishment. The world will be abandoned. History is no more.
Amillennialism, Roman Catholic: These anticipate Jesus coming to Earth and gathering the Church together. But they generally do not use the term "rapture."
Postmillennialism: (Also known as "Christian Reconstruction", "Kingdom Now Theology" and "Dominion Theology.") These believe “that the kingdom of God is now being extended in the world through the preaching of the gospel and the saving work of the Holy Spirit, that the world eventually is to be Christianized, and that the return of Christ will occur at the close of a long period of righteousness and peace, commonly called the millennium.”
Preterism is a belief that the events prophesized in the New Testament have already happened. The great war of Armageddon in the book of Revelation occurred in the late 60's and early 70's CE when the temple in Jerusalem was destroyed, many Jews were killed and the rest were driven from Palestine. When Jesus talked about the end of the world, he did not mean that the physical world would be no more.
No Millennialism: These interpret the contents of the books of Daniel and Revelation as having no prophetic information for our future.
Islam - On a day of reckoning, God will resurrect and judge the dead, send the righteous to heaven and the evil to hell. This will be preceded by a Muhammed-like holy warrior, the Mahdi (twelfth imam) – who defends Islam from the antiChrist, beasts, etc.
Buddhism - Buddha’s teachings will disappear and all will fall into ruin to be replaced by Maitreya and his teachings.
Hinduism All will fall into ruin followed by the appearance of an avatar (Kalki Avatar)
Atheism:
Cyclic The universe expands by strictly naturalistic means, collapses, and then expands again etc. Endless Expansion The universe never quits expanding but reaches maximum entropy killing everything anyway
Hello Alamo-Girl, put me down as pre-trib even though I have some reservations.
Thanks for the ping.
Seven
His Kingdom will have no end...
That's right, the phrase was "Pan-Tribulation" my pastor used. I wonder if your friend and I had the same pastor?
:-)
"Watch and pray."
jm
New Jersey area? :)
"Someday some of them say that our hearts
will beat like the wheels of a fast train
going 'round the worldSome say we'll be together
Some say for a very long time
Some of them will say a very long time"-- "Book of Brilliant Things", Simple Minds
I thought we were in Kali Yuga which is the destructive period which is why I likened it to 'in ruin', but I defer to you as I am not up on the details. Thanks for the clarification.
It would be comforting to be able to accept any scripture on faith, but I cannot fully do that at this point in my life. If I had to make a choice though, the Vedas would be it.
You forgot only one of the Christian views:
Panmillennialism -- It'll all pan out in the end.
For the record: I lean toward a pre-trib model, but think the jury's still out on whether it's that or mid-trib. Post-trib would have the saved bouncing up and then right back down again for the Millennium, so that gets no traction with me.
Ultimately, though, my own personal opinion is that everything will come to an end, at last, when all of the "isms" become "wasms".
Amillennialism, Roman Catholic
Ask not for whom everything ends, it ends for everything,
or something like that.
Personally I'm going to meditate on compassion and hope for the best.
Obviously, it's all going to end as soon as I stop waking up.
Y'all better be nice to me.
interesting thread
Christ will withdraw His Church(Those who have accepted the gift of salvation through Jesus) prior to the judgment that will come upon the earth which will end the age of grace. After a period of judgment Christ will return with His bride, the church and set up His Kingdom as promised to David that his seed will rule forever and ever, sun up to sun down. After a thousand year reign satan is released for a final judgment on the earth and then satan and his minions are cast into the lake of fire forever and ever.
Those who have accepted the promise of Gods covenant with His Son, will remain with Him forever and ever with the establishment of a new heaven and earth...
"reaches maximum entropy"
Some call that the state of Pennsylvania.
I have personally pretty much abandoned any ideas of a theological basis for continuance.
A God who demands we worship him, then simply gives no emperical evidence of his existence or an afterlife, is not particularly charitable, IMHO.
So I'm inclined to break the question into two parts:
What is mans end and
What is the universe end.
And I have answers for neither, but no doubt with populations increasing and resources dwindling, mans end might not be very pretty at all.
dispensational premillenialism
The Mormon expectation:
The "world" that ends is the current age dominated by vice, greed, lust, and power.
Jesus Christ will personally return and the brightness of his coming burns the earth and destroys the wicked. The physical earth will be burned, but it will not be destroyed in the process. The burning will rid the earth of the works of corruption and evil.
Christ will reign over the earth for a period of a thousand years. Those who have been faithful and obedient to God's commandments (regardless of their religious affiliation) will remain. His coming ushers in a series of resurrections of the dead. Mortals will be born, raised, and live on earth, but they will not taste of death. They will be transformed at the time of death from mortality to immortality. During this period the earth will be renewed to an Eden-like state.
During this millennial period, Satan will be bound and will exercise no influence over humanity. However, at the end of the thousand years, Satan will be released, leading to his final battle against God and the righteous. At the end of this conflict, the physical earth will "pass away" and be "reborn" as an eternal kingdom of glory, which "the meek" will inherit. All of humanity will be resurrected and judged according to their works and they will live eternally in "many mansions" of varying degrees of glory.
Thanks so much Alamo-Girl!
Pre-Tribulation Rapture here...Jesus comes first for His church & then comes back with His Church
Come Lord Jesus!!!
I am writing an article which covers a lot of topics including Kali Yuga timing, if you want a ping when I post it let me know, best is by freepmail so I see it.
Kali Yuga is ruination, pretty much, but there is a Golden Age and there are benefits. Kind of black and white.
That old world ended the day this one began. Once a person embraces Yeshua, all things pass away. We may see the old world around us...but it is gone. We open our eyes, and all things are new...and we have died and been reborn...into Him.
Upon coming to Jesus, we are coming to Heaven. Just knowing Him is Heaven. Rebirth by the HS negates purgatory. His indwelling brings any existence into the Heavenly realm.
Of this I have proof...I am proof! and so are you!
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