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The cult of the mean girl
TORONTO STAR ^ | Mar. 5, 2006 | LESLIE SCRIVENER

Posted on 03/06/2006 9:51:00 PM PST by tbird5

It happens to the best of women. Here's Rosalind Wiseman, who has spent her entire working life teaching girls to treat each other decently. The script for the movie Mean Girls was based on her 2002 best-selling Queen Bees & Wannabes, a book that helps parents understand the drama and danger in the adolescent girl world. She knows the minefields that lie in gossip, jealousy, disloyalty and cruel judgments, and offers solid prescriptions for changing bad behaviour.

Yet despite her experience, she recently found herself sizing up two mothers who came to see her.

In her view, the women paid too much attention to their appearance, especially their hair. They seemed catty in their conversation, were micromanaging their kids' lives, and were silly.

"All these things came into my head. Why? They are antithetical to what I teach and believe," Wiseman says. "I was still judging these women."

Where does this nastiness come from?

Wiseman thinks it exists because it's supposed to exist. Being nasty to each other is one of the unspoken rules about how girls and women are supposed to behave; one of the rigidly enforced North American standards of what constitutes femininity.

"It's everything you know but haven't been sat down and taught," as Wiseman puts it.

When she judged the two women so harshly, it was as if she was acting out one of the observations she made in her book — that girls and women can be their own worst enemies.

(Excerpt) Read more at thestar.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: psychology
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To: najida; Dashing Dasher

btw, najida, expect to see dashing dasher and me at your front door the beginning of one exceptionally fun weekend in the near future.


121 posted on 03/07/2006 11:28:05 AM PST by peacebaby
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To: najida

while I'm handing out complements, that's a lovely hourglass tattoo on your belly ;o)


122 posted on 03/07/2006 11:28:51 AM PST by papertyger
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To: najida

LOL! So true.


123 posted on 03/07/2006 11:29:24 AM PST by Hoodlum91 (pcottraux says I'm special!)
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To: Mamzelle

Well, we didn't design our plan. We are going with an existing one that fit our needs almost perfectly. Also, we are going to be the general contractors. I know, I know, we're crazy.


124 posted on 03/07/2006 11:29:36 AM PST by conservativebabe
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To: Mamzelle; Shery

LOL!

I know exactly what you're talking about.
And Shery,

Been there, very glad I did it....but learn the words to "Hotel California" because that is what that house will feel like before you're finished.


125 posted on 03/07/2006 11:29:55 AM PST by najida (Me arguing for logic and against emotion is like Mother Teresa becoming a pole dancer.)
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To: papertyger

LOL!

You actually made me look (Dang, I'm gettin' old)


126 posted on 03/07/2006 11:31:20 AM PST by najida (Me arguing for logic and against emotion is like Mother Teresa becoming a pole dancer.)
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To: chris1

:Smooch:


127 posted on 03/07/2006 11:32:05 AM PST by Dashing Dasher ( I prayed, 'O Lord, make my enemies ridiculous.' And God granted it.)
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To: tbird5

This is what happens when you give unmitigated license to any group. Is it any wonder that we collectively wimp out - and surmise that the only person that can hold Hillary to account is another woman?

Screw that. Hold EVERYBODY to account. No license for anybody. But...forget I said anything...it ain't gonna happen until everything collapses anyway - and when there's no longer any luxury of tolerating sanctimonious parasites in this society. We'll ALL be scramblin' for survival. Good luck to them...they're gonna need it.


128 posted on 03/07/2006 11:32:24 AM PST by guitfiddlist (When the 'Rats break out switchblades, it's no time to invoke Robert's Rules.)
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To: najida

Everyone has baggage, to some degree or another. It makes us who we are though!


129 posted on 03/07/2006 11:33:13 AM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR...)
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To: conservativebabe

No, you're not crazy.

Just be patient, learn the building codes for your area (so you won't have to do anything twice) and get what you want....Sometimes you may have to settle or go down a notch, but you'll sort through what is really important and what you can live without (or wait until later for)


130 posted on 03/07/2006 11:33:29 AM PST by najida (Me arguing for logic and against emotion is like Mother Teresa becoming a pole dancer.)
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To: RockinRight

My baggage is a matched set. It's lovely!


131 posted on 03/07/2006 11:33:51 AM PST by Hoodlum91 (pcottraux says I'm special!)
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To: Hoodlum91

Really? Can I see it? ;-)

If you show me yours, I'll show you mine...


132 posted on 03/07/2006 11:34:28 AM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR...)
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To: RockinRight

Exactly.

We all have it. The only way you can find someone without it is if they're 12 and a virgin or raised in a convent.


133 posted on 03/07/2006 11:35:11 AM PST by najida (Me arguing for logic and against emotion is like Mother Teresa becoming a pole dancer.)
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To: RockinRight

Where have I heard that before?


134 posted on 03/07/2006 11:35:33 AM PST by Hoodlum91 (pcottraux says I'm special!)
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To: Dashing Dasher

To be honest, I only date strong conservative women. My GF is 5'10" while I am 5'8". She is tough as nails, plays hockey on a men's team, works out, shoots gun, loves horror movies, etc., yet is incredibly smart.

I wouldn't have it any other way.


135 posted on 03/07/2006 11:35:50 AM PST by chris1
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To: Calpernia
Oh great. So not only am I a mutant....now I'm a nonfeminine mutant.

No, I don't think you're a lesbian.

136 posted on 03/07/2006 11:36:47 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Hoodlum91

I don't know...where HAVE you heard it?


137 posted on 03/07/2006 11:37:00 AM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR...)
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To: chris1; Dashing Dasher

Yes, but can she fly an airplane? ;)


138 posted on 03/07/2006 11:37:08 AM PST by conservativebabe
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To: Search4Truth

Most often the context is anything but "strong". Truly strong, well there's Margeret Thatcher and Condi Rice. How the term is used however in reality refers to a woman who repeatedly lashes out whenever she doesn't get "her way". Petty, nasty, mean, spiteful. Hillary Clinton.


139 posted on 03/07/2006 11:37:24 AM PST by Fred Hayek (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: conservativebabe

Seriously, you need to talk to me about this. If you are not very very careful, you will get screwed by suns looking for all sorts of extras and not applying your payments correctly.

Make sure you pay for the materials yourself and have it delivered to your house.

Also, make sure everything is in writing and you get insurance certificates from everybody. Also, amke sure you have no illegals on the property since if they get hurt, you are going to get sued.


140 posted on 03/07/2006 11:37:52 AM PST by chris1
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