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'Crash' Pulls Off Best-Picture Oscar
yahoo.com ^ | 3/5/06

Posted on 03/05/2006 8:49:15 PM PST by paudio

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To: TheLion

As do I. But whenever there's a thread about some celebrity saying something we don't like, within the first three posts someone trashes their talent, and it's just unnecessary.


181 posted on 03/05/2006 9:49:15 PM PST by Hildy
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To: buffmonster

Yes, Walk the Line was probably my favorite movie this year.


182 posted on 03/05/2006 9:49:35 PM PST by CheyennePress
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To: Hildy

Yah, I know.

It's funny, I vote with almost no exceptions a straight Republican ticket, (the only time in the past 3 cycles I've voted for a D was when the R was literally a felon who got on the ballot because nobody else filed), have worked on the staff of Republican campaignes, am going to a Christian Graduate School etc.

Yet, I seem to be beaten up here for being too 'left' most of the time, mostly for things like this.

Oh well. SOMEBODY has to try to talk sense into the crazies or they'll start turning off the non-involved conservative voter.


183 posted on 03/05/2006 9:50:08 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: A Jovial Cad

Knock off the personal attacks.


184 posted on 03/05/2006 9:50:16 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: vbmoneyspender
I asked about a plot point, which you confirmed was true. Having someone sent to jail for a crime they didn't commit is the sort of miscarriage of justice which good movies generally seek to unwind (a la Shawshank Redemption) rather than affirm

That one won't give a straight answer, so I'll fill in with the honest response: it is worse than that. The "detective" not only allows an innocent man to go to jail by suppressing evidence that would've exonerated him for politically correct reasons, he also takes a bribe, of sorts. The superior who pressures him to do this holds out the promise that the detective's brother, who'd been in trouble with the law, will have his record cleared if he goes along.

And this is done. Just gets better and better, doesn't it?

185 posted on 03/05/2006 9:50:50 PM PST by A Jovial Cad ("If you kill enough of them, they stop fighting." -General Curtis LeMay)
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To: hershey

My friend who saw both CRASH and BROKEBACK, didn't like CRASH, either. She just saw that new film with 16 in the title...said it was terrific.


186 posted on 03/05/2006 9:52:53 PM PST by hershey
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To: My Favorite Headache
Joaquin Phoenix did not win Best Actor and Walk The Line was not nominated for Best Picture.

I watched it last night. He was good and the movie was great. I am glad Reese won for Actress.

187 posted on 03/05/2006 9:53:05 PM PST by I Drive Too Fast
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To: vbmoneyspender

Wait, you didn't say anything about racism, you said something about innocent men being punished for things they didn't do. You mentioned 'The Shawshank Redemption'. What's racism have to do with 'The Sawshank Redeption'?

Second, I missed the part where I agreed that anything was affirmed as being a good thing in 'Crash'. Because the kind of thing you are now describing I never said happened, and it didn't.

You'd know that if you'd actually seen the movie you feel so free to criticize.

Finally, if you didn't understand why it was a 'good thing' that Christ went through all that, you really, really, really didn't understand it.


188 posted on 03/05/2006 9:53:20 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: claudiustg
" They told me that that Brokeback Mountain thing was the most significant, most innovative movie of modern times."

Don't you believe it.

"There is nothing new under the sun."

189 posted on 03/05/2006 9:53:26 PM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American (Islam is the Anti-Christ)
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To: hershey

---Glad Brokeback didn't make it...although a friend who saw the latter said she thought it was really about sorrow.---

It's about sorrow now, seeing that they didn't win. But they did break new ground for gay sheepherders.


190 posted on 03/05/2006 9:54:52 PM PST by claudiustg (Delenda est Iran!)
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To: Hildy

I agree. I try to watch films and be unconsidering of the actor/actresses politics.

That is why I wish they would shut up....so it doesn't interfere with the experience.

It was either Paul Neuman or Brad Pitt who said...."people aren't interested in my politics"....I admire that.


191 posted on 03/05/2006 9:54:57 PM PST by TheLion
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To: TheLion

Actually, it was Brad Pitt who said it...before he started talking about his opinions. LOL!


192 posted on 03/05/2006 9:56:23 PM PST by Hildy
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To: doodlelady
I think CRASH is really good too, and deserves the Oscar. The story was nuanced and layered and not the PC tale that I had expected. CRASH examines rasicm on many levels...there was no 'ultimate evil' other than what baggage each character already had. Well acted and written.

And for what it is worth, I think Jon Stewart did a really good job...

193 posted on 03/05/2006 9:57:36 PM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (If I post Blah, Blah, Blah...can I bill at $300 per hour?)
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To: vbmoneyspender
I don't know how to say this without insulting you, but I have a hard time believing you actually saw "Crash". It seems like you saw only that one scene you're describing, or you're relying on someone else's description of it.

The entire point of that scene was the injustice being done to the white cop who was wrongly accused, and how it was being justified because he was though of as being a racist. The message was very clear that it was wrong. but that that's the kind of thing that can happen when people feel they need to "correct" wrong done to others because of racism.

I just don't see how you could get that impression of the movie if you actually watched the entire thing.

But, I could be wrong.

194 posted on 03/05/2006 9:57:43 PM PST by Jotmo ("Voon", said the mattress.)
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To: montag813

Oh no, you didn't!!! LOL


195 posted on 03/05/2006 9:58:43 PM PST by JRios1968 (A DUmmie troll's motto: "Non cogito, ergo zot")
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To: Jotmo
but I have a hard time believing you actually saw "Crash"

You misunderstand, read his replies to me. He actually ADMITS he hasn't seen it, and is arguing why he doesn't have to.

196 posted on 03/05/2006 10:01:24 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: zbigreddogz

---the only time in the past 3 cycles I've voted for a D was when the R was literally a felon---

There you go. He admits, out of his own mouth, voting for Democrats! :^)


197 posted on 03/05/2006 10:01:45 PM PST by claudiustg (Delenda est Iran!)
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To: TheLion
I wanted to like National Treasure--but I just couldn't click with it when I got it on Pay per view.

A good friend of mine also really liked Million Dollar Baby, so I might have to check it out!

198 posted on 03/05/2006 10:02:07 PM PST by RepoGirl ("That boy just ain't right..." Hank Hill)
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To: RepoGirl

King Kong was the only movie we paid money to see this past year. It comes out on DVD this month - and we're buying a copy of it as well (the only other DVDs we've bought have been the Lord of the Rings movies, Gone with the Wind and The Wizard of Oz. You're not alone gushing about King Kong. We do, however, plan to see Narnia. Everyone who has seen it has told us it is excellent.


199 posted on 03/05/2006 10:03:22 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: paudio

BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN DIDN'T WIN?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I'm going to end it all. Goodbye cruel cruel world!


200 posted on 03/05/2006 10:04:01 PM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion have been born. Ronald Reagan)
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