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Evolution Bill Stirs Debate (Oklahoma House votes 77-10 to permit alternative views)
Associated Press ^ | March 2, 2006 | Tim Talley

Posted on 03/05/2006 10:14:04 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian

Evolution bill stirs debate on origin of life, religion

TIM TALLEY
Associated Press

OKLAHOMA CITY - While other states are backing away from teaching alternatives to evolution, the Oklahoma House passed a bill Thursday encouraging schools to expose students to alternative views about the origin of life.

The measure, passed on a 77-10 vote, gives teachers the right to teach "the full range of scientific views on the biological or chemical origins of life." The measure stops short of requiring the teaching of "intelligent design" alongside the theory of evolution in science classes.

Its author, Rep. Sally Kern, R-Oklahoma City, said evolution is taught in some classrooms as if it were scientific fact although the theory, developed in the 19th century by Charles Darwin, is neither observable, repeatable or testable and is not solid science.

"They are getting a one-sided view of evolution," said Kern, a former teacher. "Let's teach good, honest science."

Critics said the lessons would be more appropriate in religion or philosophy classes than in science class. They said the measure would take control from local school boards on developing lesson plans and violates the constitutional prohibition on government endorsement of specific religious views.

"I think we're about to open a slippery slope here," said Rep. Danny Morgan, D-Prague. In December, a federal judge blocked attempts to teach intelligent design in high school biology classes in Dover, Pa.

"We're going to be right back in the courthouse," Morgan said.

Kern said her bill does not promote a particular religious point of view but promotes critical thinking by students by exposing them to all sides of a scientific debate.

"This bill is not about a belief in God. It is not about religion. It is about science," Kern said. "I'm not asking for Sunday school to be in a science class."

Evolution teaches that all organisms are connected by genealogy and have changed through time through several processes, including natural selection.

Intelligent design teaches that life is so well-ordered that it must have been created by a higher power. Critics argue that the theory is merely repackaged creationism, which teaches that the Earth and all life were created by God.

Supporters said exposing students to different viewpoints will create lively classroom debate.

"Do you think you come from a monkeyman?" said Rep. Tad Jones, R-Claremore. "Did we come from slimy algae 4.5 billion years ago or are we a unique creation of God? I think it's going to be exciting for students to discuss these issues."

Opponents said alternative theories on the origin of life are a matter of faith, not science. "God truly is the creator of heaven and Earth, but I can't prove that," said Rep. Al Lindley, D-Oklahoma City.

The bill now goes to the state Senate, where similar legislation has been defeated in the past.

On Tuesday, lawmakers in Utah defeated a bill requiring public school students be told that evolution is not empirically proven. In Ohio, school curriculum is undergoing change following the Pennsylvania ruling that intelligent design should not be taught alongside evolution in public schools.

Kansas has adopted language to encourage students to explore arguments against evolution, but the standards have not been tied to any lesson plans or statewide testing.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: crevolist; scienceeducation
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Um... Jude... some of these are not, actually, English words. Respectfully, how am I supposed to respond to this?

Don't. Somehow that post got hosed. I think I inadvertantly dragged some of the previous post into the new one, and didn't catch it on the preview.

361 posted on 03/12/2006 11:54:29 AM PST by jude24 ("The Church is a harlot, but she is my mother." - St. Augustine)
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To: VadeRetro

Some people would claim that Stoke's Law didn't apply before the flood. Not everyone believes in mathematics.


362 posted on 03/12/2006 12:00:44 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Who said they were government IMPOSED standards, OP?

I said they were government PUBLISHED standards.

I think you overestimate the genius of Robert E. Lee, who was a military genius. It was Lee who ordered Pickett's fateful charge against the advice of Longstreet, Pickett, and others. It was the end of the southern Army.

Many would claim that Lee's right arm, Thomas Jackson, and his left arm, Longstreet, were the keys to his brilliance. Jackson perhaps more than anyone else.

Both Patton & McArthur deserve great credit. I'm not sure they deserve more credit than a nation that was willing to tolerate extreme casualty figures. (The same with Grant.)

Perhaps the real genius was the man behind the scenes who permitted Russia to absorb the brunt of the Nazi army until 1944, and the man who pushed the race for the Bomb.

Wonder who that was?

Finally, West Point is a government school.


363 posted on 03/12/2006 2:05:36 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Pray for Our Troops!)
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