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Wireless World: Clandestine communications
UPI ^ | March 3, 2006 | UPI

Posted on 03/04/2006 5:33:03 PM PST by 2Jim_Brown

CHICAGO, March 3 (UPI) -- New wireless technologies being developed by a secretive government agency in collaboration with private contractors may dramatically improve communications for homeland defense among federal, state and local officials, experts tell United Press International's Wireless World.

The Department of Homeland Security, working with BlackBerry Wireless devices, Palm Treos and other mobile handheld computers, has been working to secure wireless e-mail through a testing program being run by its very secretive Advanced Research Projects Agency, a unit created for the war on terror that is analogous to the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, devised during the Cold War by the Pentagon to create secret, new technologies. By Gene Koprowski

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TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: homelanddefense; wireless
New wireless technologies may improve communications of homeland defense.
1 posted on 03/04/2006 5:33:04 PM PST by 2Jim_Brown
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To: 2Jim_Brown
New wireless technologies may improve communications of homeland defense.

Yeah, but can they keep a cell connection for more than 10 miles without the call dropping?

2 posted on 03/04/2006 5:36:58 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (Progressives do not want progress....they want power.)
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To: 2Jim_Brown
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But mobile communications can go down during a disaster -- like Hurricane Katrina -- or during an attack, like the terrorist onslaught on Sept. 11, 2001, when panic in New York and Washington overwhelmed mobile-phone lines.

ßu11$h¡† - you mean to tell me that the telecommunications system cannot sufficiently recognize one set of phones (dedicated to emergency personnel and systems) from plain 'ol users (aka 'the great unwashed'), prioritize incoming traffic, and selectively allow 'priority' traffic to connect (at the expense of disconnecting lower-priority traffic)?

_I_ have no problem with only being permitted time-limited calls if I'm in the middle of a disaster if it means that necessary traffic can get through.

3 posted on 03/04/2006 6:06:08 PM PST by solitas (So what if I support an OS that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.4.2)
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To: 2Jim_Brown
"...through a testing program being run by its very secretive Advanced Research Projects Agency, a unit created for the war on terror that is analogous to the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, devised during the Cold War by the Pentagon to create secret, new technologies. By Gene Koprowski."

Boy, these guys have really active imaginations. HSARPA projects are in the public record. Anyone can access the grant proposals for current and past grant solicitations on-line at http://www.hsarpabaa.com/

4 posted on 03/04/2006 6:14:40 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: solitas
ßu11$h¡† - you mean to tell me that the telecommunications system cannot sufficiently recognize one set of phones (dedicated to emergency personnel and systems) from plain 'ol users (aka 'the great unwashed'), prioritize incoming traffic, and selectively allow 'priority' traffic to connect (at the expense of disconnecting lower-priority traffic)?

I don't know what the situation is in the United States, but in the UK they simply give special SIM cards to emergency personnel and essential government officials. When the sh*t hits the fan, the phone company pushes a button, and those whose the "high priority" bit set on their SIM cards get access to the cell network before anyone else, even if it means cutting off a regular user's call. Or, of course, in a worst-case scenario they can block regular users entirely. You can run a web search on the phrase "ACCOLC" for more information.

5 posted on 03/04/2006 6:19:48 PM PST by Dont Mention the War (This tagline is false.)
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To: 2Jim_Brown; solitas
"...overwhelmed mobile-phone lines. ..."

Them press peoples am smart!

6 posted on 03/04/2006 6:28:24 PM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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To: 2Jim_Brown
Hmmm! There has been secure, well proven, intermittently connected wireless technology supplying and storing patients' critical electronic medical records info on low cost common PDA's and smart-phones like the Treo for health care professionals for some time already!

http://www.obeverywhere.com/
7 posted on 03/04/2006 8:24:15 PM PST by 4FreeSpeach
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To: Dont Mention the War
but in the UK they simply give special SIM cards to emergency personnel and essential government officials.

That scheme works over there because they have standardised on GSM. The U.S. has a real melange of different standards and freqs in use.

8 posted on 03/04/2006 8:56:16 PM PST by glorgau
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To: 2Jim_Brown
Interesting.
9 posted on 03/04/2006 10:13:38 PM PST by FOG724 (I'm a Republican only as far as I want a smaller government)
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To: solitas
ßu11$h¡† - you mean to tell me that the telecommunications system cannot sufficiently recognize one set of phones (dedicated to emergency personnel and systems) from plain 'ol users (aka 'the great unwashed'), prioritize incoming traffic, and selectively allow 'priority' traffic to connect (at the expense of disconnecting lower-priority traffic)?

I feel certain that can be done, but I'd be surprised if it's just that simple. There's a different technology out there that's pretty slick; I read about a company that's opening a location in Tupelo, MS; can't remember the company name. They make gear specifically for critical-needs telecommunications like this, and if I correctly understand the technology, it doesn't require any big build-out of new infrastructure by the telcos.

MM

10 posted on 03/04/2006 10:21:42 PM PST by MississippiMan (Behold now behemoth...he moves his tail like a cedar. Job 40:17)
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To: MississippiMan

I dunno - I think it _can_ be as simple as that. after all, they know your phone number so they can bill you; it shouldn't be too much of a stretch to have a 'priority' list and a 'public' list and start bumping 'public' calls when a new 'priority' number wants to initiate a call.

As for that company you mention, I think I heard something similar: they bring in a self-contained 'cell tower' (with generator& all), set it up, and narrow-beam the out-of-area traffic to a distant location to connect with the rest of the world. The tower would have its own central office to manage its own local links so those in the area could communicate with each other over the affected area.


11 posted on 03/05/2006 11:34:30 AM PST by solitas (So what if I support an OS that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.4.2)
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To: 4FreeSpeach

It looks like that OBeverywhere company just makes the software; nothing to do with the carriers.


12 posted on 03/05/2006 11:38:14 AM PST by solitas (So what if I support an OS that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.4.2)
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To: solitas

"_I_ have no problem with only being permitted time-limited calls if I'm in the middle of a disaster if it means that necessary traffic can get through."

See, this is where it gets tricky.

The government, through its inherent incompetence, especially with complex things, cannot - despite countless 10's of Billions of dollars, create it's own communication network so that in an emergency, first responders, gov't leaders, etc. can communicate with those they need to communicate.

Solution? Usurp the commercial network (at their expense to implement the technology) with a prioritization scheme, whereby gov't weenies can use their commercial cellphones, while the great unwashed will not be able to use their cellphones.

This scheme is supposedly already implemented, by the way.

Now, what do you think is on the list of reasons why nearly everyone buys a cellphone? Emergencies, unexpected developments, and ability to be reached no matter what.

Guess what? In a national emergency, nobody in the great unwashed masses gets to phone home to ease the minds of worried relatives, unless you are a gov't employee. You can bet that they are handing priority phone privileges out like candy to every self-important bureaucrat that wants one.

Guess what else? Cell phone companies won't tell you this, because people might realize that in a disaster, even if the cellphone network is operating, their cellphone is a paperweight - and this would likely influence buying decisions.

I DO have a problem with the government telling me I can't call my family in a disaster situation on a commercial cellular network.

If government can't build their own robust communications system, despite huge expenditure of funds, what makes anyone think they'll be any more effective in a disaster situation - especially by interfering with the commercial use of cellphone systems.


13 posted on 03/05/2006 12:00:53 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Wonder Warthog

His sentence isn't even factually correct. "DARPA" became "ARPA" years ago, certainly long before 9/11.


14 posted on 03/05/2006 12:07:50 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: MrBambaLaMamba
"...overwhelmed mobile-phone lines. ..."

Them press peoples am smart!

At some point, most mobile phone calls must interface to physical landlines in order to make a connection, particularly if the call is directed to a land-based phone. If the call is directed to another mobile phone, it depends on where the other phone is located as to whether the call goes onto the physical cable/fiber network or is able to be switched/transmitted totally via radio frequency. This is even true on the NexTel-type walkie-talkie phones.

There is a very detailed section on cell phone technology on www.howstuffworks.com

15 posted on 03/05/2006 12:19:43 PM PST by T-Bird45
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To: T-Bird45
"...most mobile phone calls must interface to physical landlines..."

Aren't these connections normally refered to as "circuits"?

16 posted on 03/06/2006 4:23:04 AM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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