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Ports and pitchforks
The Washington Times ^ | 3/3/06 | Diana West

Posted on 03/03/2006 5:42:53 AM PST by Dr. Thorne

One of the weirder sideshows to open alongside a main event — the proposed operational transfer of six major American ports to a firm owned by the United Arab Emirates — is the growing chorus of road-company Zolas, "J'accusing" everybody opposed to the sale of "xenophobia," "isolationist mass hysteria," "bigotry," "nativism," "panic," and "prejudice" against innocent Araby.

Such accusations are supposed to make you hang your head in shame. They make me shake mine in consternation — wondering how in tarnation a hefty chunk of the American elite has the chutzpah to castigate the American people (64 percent of whom, says a Rasmussen poll, think the deal is a Bad Thing) for "xenophobia" and "prejudice" on behalf of a culture that is the embodiment of xenophobia and prejudice. The words precisely describe the official state of normal in the Arab-Islamic world since at least 1948, when the modern state of Israel was founded.

Nonetheless, we're the "pitchfork-wielding xenophobes" en route to the "Dark Ages," says the New York Times' Thomas Friedman. I'd say we're heading in the other direction, trying to escape the Dark Ages — as represented by the spreading influence of sharia (Islamic law), which, in terms of the sharia-compliant port deal, would make deep inroads into global financial markets. I would add, as Rachel Ehrenfeld and Alyssa A. Lappen have suggested in this newspaper, "It's time for the United States to limit financial transactions that involve American companies" — and the U.S. government — "to governance by secular laws."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dubai; nativism; ports; uae
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I'm sick of the knee-jerk Dubai yes men accusing FReepers and the majority of Americans of racism for opposing this deal. That is the strategy of the Left when they are losing a debate.

Here's a comment for Dubai supporters: If you support this deal, you support sharia law, Islamofascism, misogyny and Anti-Semitism.

Makes as much sense as the opposite.

1 posted on 03/03/2006 5:42:54 AM PST by Dr. Thorne
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To: Dr. Thorne

Typical....

Listen pal, come up with one reason OTHER THAN THEY ARE A-RABS, and you won't be called racist on your reasoning.

ITS THAT DAMNED SIMPLE.

Until then, deal with it.


2 posted on 03/03/2006 5:50:41 AM PST by FreedomNeocon (I'm in no Al-Samood for this Shi'ite.)
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To: FreedomNeocon
Of course, everybody gets carried away sometimes. After the Columbia shuttle disaster in 2003, according to the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI), a UAE columnist named Hamed Salamin was moved to write that the death of Israeli astronaut Ilan Ramon was "enough to arouse joy in every heart that beats Arabism and Islam." Then there's Ali Al-Hamadi, the founder of something in the UAE called "The Creative Thinking Center." According to a MEMRI translation, Al-Hamadi waxed rhapsodic in 2005 about mothers of Palestinian suicide bombers who, he maintained during an Iqra TV interview, actually listen in on their offspring's detonation via cellphone ("then she utters cries of joy..."). Maybe it's nativist or tsunamist to mention this, but I found a Creative Thinking Center client list online that includes — can you guess? — our pals at the Dubai port.

....one of the reasons...this company is about more than just shipping.

3 posted on 03/03/2006 6:00:30 AM PST by yoe
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To: Dr. Thorne

Its called "the broad brush".

Surely, some of those opposing the deal are doing so because they don't trust Arabs of any kind. There can be no doubt to that statement.

Those who support the deal blindly, in their desire to persuade others to support it, or at least not to oppose it, use the broad brush to scare soft-opponents away from opposition.

It works in both directions. Those who oppose the deal are quick to call supports "Blind lemmings" and pretend that there are no good reasons to support it, which there are.

This is a tricky issue that is not black and white. < period >

I am gonna sit it out and watch.


4 posted on 03/03/2006 6:09:04 AM PST by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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To: Dr. Thorne
Lets just invade and take over the UAE, hell people seem to think that they are our worst enemy. Shoot, why stop there? Lets grab, Kuwait, Yemen, and Oman while were at it. Maybe as an appetizer we could grab Saudi Arabia and Jordan /sarcasm
5 posted on 03/03/2006 6:11:31 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Dr. Thorne

When the Roman Emperors began to use "barbarians" to administer his borders and fill troop quotas, the Empire began to Decline.

President Bush, call your office!


6 posted on 03/03/2006 6:14:03 AM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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To: Dr. Thorne
If some FReepers here don't trust ANY Arabs or Muslims, can they please tell me WTF we are doing in Iraq and Afghanistan?
7 posted on 03/03/2006 6:15:34 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Dr. Thorne
Call it what you will; there is no objective evidence that Dubai Ports is a terrorist organization. None.

These same people run the biggest port for the United States Navy. Presidents from BOTH parties do business with the UAE. They provide money and facilities for the training of Iraqi police officers.

Are they perfect? No. We also don't agree with the Chinese on their aspects and behaviors of governance. We still do business with them...even let them run port terminals.

I've failed to see anything in the evidence that separates DP from any other port operator--other than their geography and race.

8 posted on 03/03/2006 6:18:54 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Echo Talon
Echo, I wonder if all these people who hate the Arabs running the ports also want to stop Arab ships carrying oil from coming to America for refining....after all, how can we do business with these Saudis?? So many 9/11 hijackers were Saudis, we ought to just stop importing their oil today.
9 posted on 03/03/2006 6:20:39 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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i know, 15 of the 19 Saudis were involved in 9/11 and yet the Saudis have container ships that dock in NY and NJ. we need to stop that too. In a strange masochistic way I want the US to stop this deal and have the UAE kick us out of their ports and air bases and have nothing to do with us. I'd laugh so hard, then when i come to my senses I'd want to slap the SH** out of every member of congress! :)


10 posted on 03/03/2006 6:29:09 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: FreedomNeocon

Oh for heaven's sake. You mean concerns about handing over major US cities' port operations to a country which spawned 2 of the 9/11 terrorists and which denies the existence of Israel and backed the Taliban are racist?

Face it: you guys are playing the liberal race card.

It should be the same as Godwin's law (where those who invoke Nazis lose the argument), those who invoke hysterical cries of "racist" just plain automatically lose. Period.


11 posted on 03/03/2006 6:31:08 AM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The sooner we drill like crazy in the wilderness, fire up every hot American roof with solar, crank up our American nuclear industry, harness each strong wind, unleash oceans of biodiesel, and GET OFF THE M.E. OIL TIT, YEAH INCLUDING SAUDI ARABIA, the better off we will be. I'd love to give the finger to all those crazy countries who make us tap dance to their tune.


12 posted on 03/03/2006 6:36:21 AM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: VictoryGal
The sooner we drill like crazy in the wilderness, fire up every hot American roof with solar, crank up our American nuclear industry, harness each strong wind, unleash oceans of biodiesel, and GET OFF THE M.E. OIL TIT, YEAH INCLUDING SAUDI ARABIA, the better off we will be. I'd love to give the finger to all those crazy countries who make us tap dance to their tune.

And with all that we would still need the UAE because that isn't going to make terrorism go away.

13 posted on 03/03/2006 6:44:33 AM PST by Echo Talon
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...handing over major US cities' port operations...

Look, it isn't port operations, it is some terminals at certain ports. And it has been repeated enough, but let me say for the trillionth time: they aren't in charge of security....secondly, Pakistan and the Saudis recognized the Taliban also--are you saying we should pull our special forces out of working w/Pakistan to stop the terrorists in Tora Bora and Pakistan villages and we should stop importing Saudi oil? Are you ready for a law to be passed invoking punitive measures against these two nations we depend on for military launching points, cooperation and petroleum?

I'm not. The UAE is an ALLY...not a perfect one, hell, they're not the British...but they ARE a friend. And I haven't heard ANYTHING in terms of EVIDENCE that Dubai Ports World is a dangerous company. They do business and have been doing business all over the world, and they've had no terrorist incidents reported at any of their terminals...believe me, if there WERE, the 'rats, press and panicked Republicans would be touting it..."UAE MANAGED PORTS ALLOWED TERRORISTS INTO HONG KONG" or something like that...instead, we've got a company that manages the biggest terminal for U.S. Naval ships outside the USA being needlessly attacked just because they're Arabs.

Down here in Florida, we've got a shipping company that is a subsidiary of the company that lost the bidding war with Dubai Ports. So even our Republican congresspeople are griping...it may not be racism, but it certainly could be economic jealousy and pandering....

That's how I see it anyway. :)

14 posted on 03/03/2006 6:48:49 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper
I haven't heard Canada, Australia, Germany, China or at least 10 other countries raise any concerns. Just us...
15 posted on 03/03/2006 6:53:47 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Dr. Thorne

The "racism" charge is simply shorthand to indicate that the opponents have no evidence that port security will be effected by the deal, and therefore the administration had no legal authority to reject the deal.

But the opponents argue the deal should be thrown out anyway, because of "sharia law, Islamofascism, misogyny, and anti-semitism". In other words, because we do not want to deal with muslim-owned companies. That may be a valid argument, but it is still racism of a sort.

I say of a sort because there IS racism involved, some argue that ARABS should not be allowed to own ports and cannot be trusted -- Arabs are a race. But muslims are not a race, they are a religioun, so it's anti-muslimism that drives the opponents.

The liberals argue from tolerance that being "anti" anything is wrong no matter what the circumstance. I don't hold to that -- it IS ok to be "racist" if a race actually IS evil, although I don't believe any race is such by nature of their race.

Opponents of the deal argue that the muslim religion is evil by its very nature, and therefore all that practice the religion are evil.

My argument on the port deal has been limited to saying that, even if true, this would not be a justification for stopping this deal.

But I would also point out that there are some who claim MOST religiouns are evil.


16 posted on 03/03/2006 7:03:58 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Dr. Thorne
the proposed operational transfer of six major American ports to a firm owned by the United Arab Emirates

I am against the above but am OK with DPW operating some terminals in some ports.

IDIOTS.

17 posted on 03/03/2006 7:05:30 AM PST by Mike Darancette (In the Land of the Blind the one-eyed man is king.)
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To: Mike Darancette

Seems to me she makes the case she argues against when she says, "as represented by the spreading influence of sharia (Islamic law), which, in terms of the sharia-compliant port deal, would make deep inroads into global financial markets." What does this have to do with sharia, anyway?


18 posted on 03/03/2006 7:11:26 AM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Look, it isn't port operations,

Why do both sides continue to misstate the argument?

19 posted on 03/03/2006 7:15:13 AM PST by Mike Darancette (In the Land of the Blind the one-eyed man is king.)
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To: Dr. Thorne

one more for our side. By the way, we've decided to take a trick from the Dems playbook, and have stopped going to movies. Why subsidize an industry devoted to pressing the hard left Democratic agenda? Anyone agree with this?


20 posted on 03/03/2006 7:15:44 AM PST by boycottmovies
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