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First Skin Patch to Treat Depression
Forbes.com ^ | 03.01.06 | NA

Posted on 03/01/2006 10:46:08 PM PST by neverdem

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To: elli1

Well, yes. But the side-effect profile of an MAOI is gigantic, so it seems odd to me that they chose an MAOI for a new transdermal system.


21 posted on 03/02/2006 5:03:56 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: CalvaryJohn

Who the hell needs them? Do you also ask why the hell should a diabetic need insulin?


22 posted on 03/02/2006 5:09:06 AM PST by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Why of all medications, an MAO inhibitor as the first patch form?

I'm not familiar with this particular medication but the reason could possibly be to minimize side affects (like stomach upset). Another reason is that a patch would be a 'sustained released' version of the med. (Effexor & Wellbutrin, for example, are now available in sustained release capsule forms.) The advantages being once daily convenience and even levels of the drug in the bloodstream. Another possibility might be that a patient will be able to use a lower doseage--another bonus for limiting side effects.

23 posted on 03/02/2006 5:23:23 AM PST by elli1
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To: jennyp

The fact that it takes at least several weeks for an antidepressant to start working shows, to me at least, that the change in concentration of brain chemicals is not the reason antidepressants work.


24 posted on 03/02/2006 5:24:07 AM PST by Fishing-guy
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To: Petronski

See my Post #23.


25 posted on 03/02/2006 5:26:24 AM PST by elli1
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To: elli1

Very well. Thanks.

It makes sense to me now.


26 posted on 03/02/2006 5:27:24 AM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Petronski
Here's some drug info on selegiline:

Selegiline is generally very well tolerated. Because it is metabolized to amphetamine derivatives, it is typically administered in the morning and at midday rather than in the evening to minimize the potential for insomnia. Some patients experience gastrointestinal side effects. Unusual side effects include increased liver enzymes and aggravation of peptic ulcer disease.

Selegiline

Could very well be that trans-dermal administration minimizes side effects and is easier on the tummy.

27 posted on 03/02/2006 5:39:30 AM PST by elli1
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To: Fishing-guy; jennyp
The fact that it takes at least several weeks for an antidepressant to start working shows, to me at least, that the change in concentration of brain chemicals is not the reason antidepressants work.

Popular Antidepressants Boost Brain Growth, Hopkins Scientists Report (maybe)

As an aside, it req'd something like + - 100 years to figure out exactly how aspirin works.

28 posted on 03/02/2006 6:15:20 AM PST by elli1
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To: neverdem

Wouldnt an more effective way to dispurse this drug be by dart? Then we could start a urban program starting in the skid row areas and hire gang bangers that you gotta admit, already enjoy shooting people, to shoot the people on the streets that could use a little lift. We could set up point values and form fantasy leagues...... hmmm maybe there should be limits to my imagination...


29 posted on 03/02/2006 7:05:04 AM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: Straight Vermonter

About four hours and thirty-five minutes.


30 posted on 03/02/2006 7:35:44 AM PST by Erasmus (One fine day, sad to say, we'll all be Democrat voters.)
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To: neverdem

I haven't read all the remarks yet, so excuse if this has already been covered. Is this drug for all types of depression, thus would include bi-polar conditions?

Off topic, but what about Zicor for cholesterol? My son insists I not take my prescription. He said the head/owner of the hospital in Tonopah advises against it. I keep forgetting to ask my daughter and/or my doctor.

Joke from my doctor daughter today:

How many surgeons it takes to screw in a lightbulb. One, but he expects the whole world to revolve around him!

Do you know what does it means when a doctor has a thermometer in her hand? Some a**whole has her pen.

BTW, I don't always comment on the threads you alert us to. But I did want to thank you once again for your efforts. Appreciated.


31 posted on 03/02/2006 9:09:21 PM PST by JudyB1938 (If we live in the past, we will never see the future. Neither will most of our children. -Tahoe3002)
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To: JudyB1938
I haven't read all the remarks yet, so excuse if this has already been covered. Is this drug for all types of depression, thus would include bi-polar conditions?

IIRC, this patch is the third or fourth choice because of some adverse food-drug interactions, for major depressive disorder, not manic depression, aka bi-polar. But I'm not a psychiatrist.

Off topic, but what about Zicor for cholesterol? My son insists I not take my prescription. He said the head/owner of the hospital in Tonopah advises against it. I keep forgetting to ask my daughter and/or my doctor.

Natural substance lowers cholesterol better than statins

Check comment 40 on that thread too. I found a paper on it.

My mom takes Zocor. Like all statins, you need liver function blood tests periodically when you first start them for at least a few months. You also must stay on guard for unexplained muscle pain or weakness while you still take them.

32 posted on 03/02/2006 10:39:39 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

This thread prompted me to e-mail my daughter. She answered in two words: TAKE IT

Thank you for that mention of liver tests. My doctor has not had that done for me - unless it is part of the labs she takes on a regular basis. I hope I can remember to ask her. Thanks again for telling me about it. I'm probably okay, because I don't experience weakness.

One time I chewed on some sugar cane. It was pithy, not sweet. Must have been old or something. Pecan pralines are much better. :0)


33 posted on 03/03/2006 1:37:50 AM PST by JudyB1938 (If we live in the past, we will never see the future. Neither will most of our children. -Tahoe3002)
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To: elli1
Popular Antidepressants Boost Brain Growth, Hopkins Scientists Report (maybe)

Thanks, that's fascinating! If that's true, then it would suggest that depression takes a long time to develop as well. I suppose it would also suggest that certain kinds of mental exercises or activities (as opposed to others or none at all) would help prevent depression in the first place. I wonder.

34 posted on 03/04/2006 12:33:09 PM PST by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: The Chicago Manual of Style, 14th ed.)
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To: neverdem

How long before somebody on the patch goes on a rampage and the lawyers sue the manufacturer out of existence?


35 posted on 03/04/2006 12:38:12 PM PST by Tall_Texan (Hate means never having to say you're crazy.)
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