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Texas Home School Coalition : Home School Crisis
Texas Home School Coalition ^ | Tim Lambert

Posted on 03/01/2006 11:42:40 AM PST by Alkhin

Dear Texas Home Schooler,

THSC PAC today (January 31, 2006) releases its initial round of endorsements for the 2006 Republican Primary. Texas home schoolers face a potential crisis in this election the likes of which we have not seen since the TEA ruled that home schools were not private schools and encouraged local school districts to prosecute parents who were teaching their children at home in the early 1980s. Let me explain.

(Excerpt) Read more at thscpac.org ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: adults; children; crisis; election; homeschool; parents; politicalaction; students; texas
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To: Alkhin

You don't ever have to 'contribute' anything. Just your being there from time to time is enough. Pop in to just say 'HI'!


21 posted on 03/01/2006 7:56:33 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: untrained skeptic
"Shouldn't there be some kind of accountability to make sure that children are really getting a solid education?"

Indeed there should, and when you devise a wizard plan that works, please try applying it to the public schools first: they're the ones that badly need it.!

22 posted on 03/01/2006 8:19:07 PM PST by Redbob
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To: Alkhin

Attend your local senate district GOP conventions: they're waist-deep in home-schoolers.
Then get yourself named to the state convention delegation (it's not hard) go to San Antonio this year and make your voice heard.

That's how you influence politicians, not by whining on some blog or another that no politician in THIS state reads!


23 posted on 03/01/2006 8:24:19 PM PST by Redbob
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To: agrace; bboop; cgk; Conservativehomeschoolmama; cyborg; cyclotic; DaveLoneRanger; dawn53; ...

Ping!

Alert for Texas homeschoolers!


24 posted on 03/01/2006 11:03:58 PM PST by Tired of Taxes (That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
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To: Alkhin

First the property taxes story from Texas, and now this one.

Maybe I should change my tagline. :-)


25 posted on 03/01/2006 11:06:11 PM PST by Tired of Taxes (That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
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To: Alkhin

Ironic that those that support public schools always talk about the kids learning, but when they attack home-schooling, such data never enters into the picture. Home schooled children outperform public school children.


26 posted on 03/01/2006 11:12:27 PM PST by Fruitbat
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To: untrained skeptic

I'm in Florida, and it's pretty easy to homeschool. You do have to register with the local school board and at the end of each year you either have to submit a standardized test score, or have the child evaluated by a certified teacher.

There are a few homeschooled moms that are also certified teachers and they will do an honest assessment of your child.

If the child is not "up to grade level" there is a grace period...I think you have at least a year, maybe two, to work on the problem.

Also, in our county, there are homeschool mentors...successful homeschool moms, and if the child is miserably failing on all levels, the homeschool office of our local school board will help you set up a meeting with the mentors. They evaluate your curriculum and will give pointers how to bring the child up to grade level.

I think it's a good program, because if your child is way below grade level, and you're not willing to meeting with the homeschool moms for help, then it gives the homeschool office a pretty good idea that you're really not serious about homeschooling.

P.S. My kid went through the dual credit program at our community college, so when he was ready to get a high school diploma, he also had earned his AA. All the state community college required of me to prove he had "graduated" HS. and in order to award his AA, was a notarized affidavit. The State U where he's transferring didn't even require a HS certification, just wanted to see his AA. Plus we had no problem getting awarded the state's full tuition scholarship award for resident kids going to in state universities (in fact they had a special office just to handle homeschoolers who were applying for the award.)

We have not suffered in the least from the minimal restrictions and standards put on homeschoolers in our state.


27 posted on 03/02/2006 3:30:05 AM PST by dawn53
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To: untrained skeptic

No, there should not be accountability. Because once you join hands with the government -- which is what you are avoiding by homeschooling -- it is a slippery slope.

There are kids being homeschooled who are not learning everything they learn in the government schools. Is that good or bad? They are not being taught any diversity crud. Is that good or bad? No time on self-esteem. Is that good or bad? And whose call is it? And who pays for the government bureaucrats to investigate? And what is the criteria they use?

What is the worst thing that could happen? Some kids come out of homeschool fairly uneducated? What is the percentage of kids who go through school and come out uneducated? It is high, my friend. Sitting in a classroom is no guarantee that you'll get -- a GOOD teacher; a kid who is not logged out; a drone who is not being educated but just getting through. Etc.


28 posted on 03/02/2006 6:18:00 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: uncitizen

Did you ask their permission, then?

If you think of numbers -- how many government regulators will it take to regulate homeschooling? How much of a budget will they need? How many homeschooling moms will they toss in the pokie to make their point? How well will that go over? I think the public schools will not go there, really.

But I would never engage with them to get their go-ahead. Just do it.


29 posted on 03/02/2006 6:20:31 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: untrained skeptic
However, at the same time we all know people who we don't think are capable of making sure their children get a good education at home. Shouldn't there be some kind of accountability to make sure that children are really getting a solid education?

Well first Public Schools need to become accountable to making sure children are getting a solid education.

30 posted on 03/02/2006 6:21:13 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Redbob
Indeed there should, and when you devise a wizard plan that works, please try applying it to the public schools first: they're the ones that badly need it.!

I don't have an solution. I don't know that there is an solution. I was just curious if anyone else had thought of something I haddn't.

31 posted on 03/02/2006 6:33:33 AM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: dawn53

Thanks for the information. It sounds like a good program.


32 posted on 03/02/2006 6:35:47 AM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: bboop
Did you ask their permission, then?... But I would never engage with them to get their go-ahead.

Unfortunately that's the way it is down out here. You have to get their pemission and sign off after jumping thru numerous hoops.
33 posted on 03/02/2006 6:53:29 AM PST by uncitizen
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To: Redbob
Thank you Redbob - I appreciate your advice - only thing is I am much too busy homeschooling to do so - plus our local GOP branch has not recommended itself to me very well...I tried a number of years ago to get involved with the local Womens chapter of the Rep party and discovered I had fallen in among a bunch of little old ladies who were more interested in bragging about their rich grandchildren "and what subdivision do you live in again?!" - there were a couple of other womens chapters, but one was solely run by women who were in the workforce, and the other met at a time that was impossible for me to attend.

I view Free Republic as more of a way to "spread the word" than a place to sit and bitch and moan. I think you will find if you look up my username in FR that my postings are sporadic and varied at best, rather than a continual feed of something or another. If I do get the urge to rant, its on my OWN blog, and usually about stuff NO ONE else is talking about...which is one reason why its not well known. Free Republic however is a great Community Posting Board that I know is occupied by active people who DO have the time to get involved in the GOP convention and are much more adept and well known than I am. If God had wnted me to get into politics, I would have been able to sweet talk those little old biddies into stuff I wanted to do. As it was, they treated me like a red-headed step-child.

sorry for THIS rant, but I am doing what God has placed in my hands...just because I *DONT* do those things you recommend, doesnt mean I should just shut up and deal.

34 posted on 03/02/2006 7:46:43 AM PST by Alkhin
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To: Alkhin

HOMESCHOOL BUMP!


35 posted on 03/02/2006 10:43:54 AM PST by Alkhin
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To: Alkhin

HOMESCHOOL BUMP!!


36 posted on 03/02/2006 11:33:57 AM PST by Alkhin
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To: untrained skeptic

"However, at the same time we all know people who we don't think are capable of making sure their children get a good education at home. Shouldn't there be some kind of accountability to make sure that children are really getting a solid education?"

In my view, no. In any crowd you're going to find a small number of deviants. People who will take advantage of a good thing and turn it to bad ends. Our typical response, and I think it's the wrong one, is to focus our time and energy into identifying and penalizing that small minority, usually through restrictions on the otherwise viruous majority.

In this case we'd be focusing on the less than 5% who are not doing a good job while ignoring the greater than 95% who are doing just fine. And how much do we plan on spending to try to track down that less than 5%?

This is the underlying reason why I'm against vouchers. If you think about it, why do we really need them? What would be better and a lot cheaper to administer is a generous tax credit for education provided to parents. Let them spend the money as they see necessary. Either at government schools, or private schoools, or to HS their kids.

But you'll never see that because we'd be too busy obsessing over that small percentage who would use the tax credit money to buy booze or drugs or vacations to Vegas or what have you. And there WOULD be some who would do so. But here's the important part: it would be a relatively small number, and it would be those who were inclined toward deviancy in the first place.

We would rather spend thousands in control measures to chase pennies it would seem. Trusting people is not only the morally correct thing to do, it's the cheaper thing to do in the long run. But I don't see that becoming a dominant paradigm in my lifetime.

Afterall we all know that somewhere, somehow, there might be someone who just can't be trusted.


38 posted on 03/05/2006 5:55:13 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: untrained skeptic
However, at the same time we all know people who we don't think are capable of making sure their children get a good education at home. Shouldn't there be some kind of accountability to make sure that children are really getting a solid education? How can that accountability be enforced without the subversive elements of our government using it to force home schoolers to teach crap to children?

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Homeschool moms in my area have a joke: If government schoolers fail their standardized tests, should they be FORCED to homeschool? We find this joke hilarious!

We ALL know government schools where children can almost NO education.
Shouldn't there be some accountability for children failing to learn in their government indoctrination camps? Hm,,,,such as closing the government school, and firing all the teachers and principal?
Shouldn't there be some accountability for government schools that indoctrinate the children with "crap"?
39 posted on 03/05/2006 6:09:17 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Alkhin; untrained skeptic
On top of that, considering what I have been hearing has been happening in the grade schools where she would be attending - - rapes, gangs, mislabeling, and a general arrogance of the school teachers -- I'll fight tooth and nail to keep her out of Public School

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When are government schools going to be held accountable?

Well...the answer is that homeschooler and privately schooling parents ARE holding the government schools accountable. Their vote of NO CONFIDENCE is to remove their children from these cesspools of ignorance!

Honestly,,,,isn't it time we changed the paradigm? Isn't it time that homeschoolers look government schooling parents in the eye and say, "WHY on earth are you DOING this to your precious children?"

It is time that we demand that government schooling parents explain their decision to place their children in such a dangerous, brutal, and ignorant situation.
40 posted on 03/05/2006 6:15:42 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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