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To: John O
From my middle class experience, most of the people I know, moved in together with the best of intentions (to eventually wed). Of those who split up after living together (I know several couples who went on and got married and are married to this day), one or the other decided marriage between them wouldn't work out. And indeed, some of them decided marriage wasn't necessary. And yes, I have heard of women who realized later, the man who they moved in with was never interested in marriage, or changed their minds after moving in with them.

Instead of phrasing it in the negative way you did, I would politely suggest to women, believing as you do, that it is unwise for women to move in with men to protect themselves from the type of male you mention.

It is interesting to me, that the men you know who were so wronged by their wives in divorce situations are always total victims in your mind. You never blame them for their choice of women to begin with. But you are quick to blame women first in any situation.

The truth is in divorce situations, the percentage of men and women who are wronged, approaches parity.

280 posted on 03/01/2006 2:06:53 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Small is the key!)
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To: TAdams8591
The truth is in divorce situations, the percentage of men and women who are wronged, approaches parity.

Yes. But court ordered punitive divorce terms are decidedly tilted.

286 posted on 03/01/2006 2:15:08 PM PST by null and void (I nominate Sept 11th: "National Moderate Muslim Day of Tacit Approval". - Mr. Rational, paraphrased)
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To: TAdams8591
You never blame them for their choice of women to begin with.

I don't know where you got this from. I was never asked about his choice of women so I never remarked on it. Was he wrong to marry her, probably, but I didn't know either of them at that point so I can't say for sure.

I will say that any man who marries a divorced woman had better look real close to be sure that her husband was a total cad (that is that he broke the marriage). I'd say the same for any woman marrying a divorced man. I've know several men who've been divorced multiple times and I always wonder why anyone would marry them. Seems if he failed two or more times the odds were very good that he'd fail again.

But you are quick to blame women first in any situation.

You don't know that. You've not seen my response to every situation. Also, in this thread I thought I was blaming both sides of the cohabitation without long haul committment group.

The truth is in divorce situations, the percentage of men and women who are wronged, approaches parity.

I've just not seen that. In the areas I am familiar with the guy gets shafted far more often.

291 posted on 03/01/2006 2:21:15 PM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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