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Bush disagrees with South Dakota abortion ban
AFP ^ | 1 March 2006

Posted on 02/28/2006 6:36:43 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

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To: Aussie Dasher

And cases of people impregnated by rape are rare to, but it's an issue that must be addressed, don't you agree?


61 posted on 02/28/2006 6:52:55 PM PST by Hildy (The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth)
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To: Hildy; jveritas

I have a friend who is the result of her Mother being raped. Would you tell her to her face that she doesn't deserve to live?


62 posted on 02/28/2006 6:53:28 PM PST by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: Sloth
Certainly

It is so easy to say it when typing on a keyboard!

63 posted on 02/28/2006 6:53:29 PM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

I think this test case is not going to end well.


64 posted on 02/28/2006 6:53:31 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Reactionary
"Freeper. Please."

OH WOW. I really wish I has thought to say that. I am still laughing about this line. Going to chuckle for days remembering this one.

65 posted on 02/28/2006 6:54:02 PM PST by MNJohnnie ("Good men don't wait for the polls. They stand on principle and fight."-Soul Seeker)
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To: Hildy
to make a woman carry a baby conceived from rape is so incredibly wrong.

This is the tough one. But, if one really believes what you have is life as soon as a child is conceived, isn't it murder to kill that child?

Maybe some kind of morning-after pill exception with proper and immediate reporting of the crime to authorities, and parents if the girl is under age 18. But it would have to be strictly enforced and not become a loophole.

One can't help but wonder if there would be less cases of rape if abortion weren't an option.

66 posted on 02/28/2006 6:54:49 PM PST by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: Hildy

See #56 a rape victim (or anyone else for that matter) could get emergency contraception under this bill.


67 posted on 02/28/2006 6:55:00 PM PST by NeoCaveman (The shark has been jumped)
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To: oolatec

Ever hear of adoption?


68 posted on 02/28/2006 6:55:06 PM PST by frankiep
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To: SeeRushToldU_So

So, a woman who has been brutally violated now must totally change her life for nine months, not to mention the physical challenges and hardships ... we won't even get into family relationships...what if she's married? Other children? What about THEIR lives?


69 posted on 02/28/2006 6:55:11 PM PST by Hildy (The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth)
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To: Winston_Churchill0

Nope. Bush has been doing the right thing. IF the Whine All The Time Choir is offended by the right thing, tough crap to the losers. If it was not this, it would be something else they would be whining about. The point is the onese screaming the loudest about the Base were never on our side to start with.


70 posted on 02/28/2006 6:55:54 PM PST by MNJohnnie ("Good men don't wait for the polls. They stand on principle and fight."-Soul Seeker)
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To: buffmonster
I don't know about you all but Bush makes me feel like a cheap 2 bit hooker.

Get a hold of your "feelings" personally and don't be so dependent upon others to form them you "conservative" you...

Nice try, it works wonders at the DU but not at FR.

If you can't, then at least insist that your "johns" wear a condom.

71 posted on 02/28/2006 6:56:00 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: Aussie Dasher; Clemenza
I could be wrong, but President Bush seems to be going out of his way to antagonize his base this past week or so...

What does W not understand about the 10th amendment and federalism? I was rather dismayed by the administration's amicus brief before the Supreme Court with regards to the lawsuit filed by Anna Nicole Smith. For once the Ninth Circus had a stopped clock moment and correctly ruled that the federal bankruptcy court had no jurisdiction. I feel sorry for Anna that she had to declare bankruptcy, but whether or not she is entitled to such a large portion of her late husband's estate is a matter for state law not federal law.

72 posted on 02/28/2006 6:56:02 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Hildy
I'm sorry, I know how alot of you feel, but to make a woman carry a baby conceived from rape is so incredibly wrong.

President Bush is consistent in in view. I'm surprised so many have a problem with consistency.

73 posted on 02/28/2006 6:56:14 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Proud to be a cotton-pickin' Republican on the GOP Plantation)
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To: longtermmemmory

this test case will be tossed by lower courts based on precedent, and the SCOTUS will decline to hear it.

Roberts is not stupid. he knows he is one vote short, and doesn't want to alienate Kennedy, who would be willing to go along with restrictions on late term and parental consent laws, but not toss Roe with respect to adult women in the first 10 weeks.


74 posted on 02/28/2006 6:56:44 PM PST by oceanview
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To: dubyaismypresident

So, the morning after pill is ok by you? So as long as you don't know about the baby, right? Interesting.


75 posted on 02/28/2006 6:56:46 PM PST by Hildy (The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth)
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To: Hildy
The question is really: who instigates the abortion? More often than not, it is the assailant.
76 posted on 02/28/2006 6:57:04 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Timmy

Yes, as is, the Supreme Court would defeat it 5-4, unless someone steps down. I think Stevens is something like 89 years old, and he wants to wait for a Democrat president before stepping down (he has an excellent chance of seeing one very soon).


77 posted on 02/28/2006 6:57:11 PM PST by tlj18
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To: Hildy

Looking at it objectively, there can be no case for abortion in the case of rape.

Three people are involved: mother, 'father' and child. The man is the guilty party. No-one else should be punished, much less executed.


78 posted on 02/28/2006 6:57:17 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: nickcarraway
I am saying that in this case of rape or incest the mother should have the choice to abort. In your friend case she chose to have the baby and that is perfectly fine with me.
79 posted on 02/28/2006 6:57:24 PM PST by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: tlj18
I have never understood why there should be an exception made for rape and incest. If abortion is murder, then wouldn't it still be murder under the proposed exceptions? But of course, the demands for these exceptions aren't grounded in reality - it's all politics. To make it look like pro-life people are compassionate. But it really makes such people look like fools.

In the same way, if abortion is murder, should abortion doctors and the women who get abortions go to trial for murder? Should the sentence for abortion be any different than the sentence for murdering someone who has been born?

80 posted on 02/28/2006 6:57:27 PM PST by M203M4
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