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Please remember to use moderator-compliant FReepSpeaktm. We now say "frequently-repeated error," sometimes called (after the poster has received numerous corrections) a "compulsively repeated error" instead of the harsher term. Everyone be nice.
1 posted on 02/28/2006 4:05:47 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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2 posted on 02/28/2006 4:07:11 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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"I don't believe that anybody in there really wants their kids to be taught that their great-grandfather was an ape," Buttars said.

And if they actually learned the Theory of Evolution, they wouldn't. But please don't let small details like facts get in the way of political hyperbole.

3 posted on 02/28/2006 4:07:51 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Tagline deleted at request of moderator.)
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Looks like some legislators have a little common sense after all. Good for them.


4 posted on 02/28/2006 4:08:12 AM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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The bill would have required teachers to tell students that evolution is not a fact

That much is true. The notion that Evolution has been "proven" is what we might call a "frequently-repeated error".

5 posted on 02/28/2006 4:10:06 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (E)
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Is it any wonder that the school systems are unable to teach children anymore. The athiest materialist secular agenda destroys all and the children suffer the most; evolution being the religion of the fools who will be judged by God in Christ Jesus. Methinks there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth in that day.


6 posted on 02/28/2006 4:32:45 AM PST by ohhhh ( I pray the public school system collapses for the good of the children.)
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What do we use the term "frequently-repeated error" in lieu of? I don't want to accidentally not substitute when I should.


10 posted on 02/28/2006 4:53:25 AM PST by ahayes
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I don't want our children to be taught unproven scientific theory but, I also don't want them to grow up as narrow minded dumb asses. There has to be a better way to approach this.
11 posted on 02/28/2006 4:54:12 AM PST by wolfcreek
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You want to talk trash, go to DU


12 posted on 02/28/2006 4:55:22 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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".........Utah House kills evolution Anti-Evolution/Pro-Creationist bill.........."

Thank God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

49 posted on 02/28/2006 6:14:16 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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Silly Buttars! It wasn't his great-grandfather, it was his great-grandfather's great-grandfather's great-grandfather that was the ape.
57 posted on 02/28/2006 6:34:09 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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58 posted on 02/28/2006 6:34:26 AM PST by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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"I don't believe that anybody in there really wants their kids to be taught that their great-grandfather was an ape," Buttars said.

My great grandfather was a Confederate soldier and I say that with pride!

67 posted on 02/28/2006 6:44:07 AM PST by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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Isnt it interesting that evolution is discussed quite a bit in the PHILOSOPHY section of the forum.

Kind of ironic...

71 posted on 02/28/2006 6:47:19 AM PST by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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"I don't believe that anybody in there really wants their kids to be taught that their great-grandfather was an ape," Buttars said.

It's amazing what government officials will do to hide their own backgrounds.

77 posted on 02/28/2006 6:56:45 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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Check back later marker.


78 posted on 02/28/2006 6:59:15 AM PST by GrandEagle
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So does Utah endorse string theory or not???

It's reprehensible that they should endorse string theory when it has so few successes, especially when the quantum gravity theorists have been making so much progress.

I'm appalled! /sarcasm


89 posted on 02/28/2006 7:34:00 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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"Evolution" as such has NEVER been taught in Utah schools as a proven fact.

It has always been taught as "The Theory of Evolution".(..and it still is just a theory).

Yesterday, in a 5th grade class, I was conducting a class on Paleontology....when one of the 5th graders asked about 'Evolution' and (of course) Dinosaurs.

I merely explained that we 'think' that this is how the whole thing happened...but we have no way of actually proving it.(5th graders are excellent in demanding proof). We have all sorts of fossils...but nothing that actually shows a transistion from this animal to that new one. We have bones that are similar in Jurrasic animals to those in Creataceous animals.But nothing that shows a exact transistion from one animal to the next.

The 5th graders 'got it'. It's a theory (a good one..but still just a theory). I also suggested that they look at all other theories...that somewhere (and maybe one of them can figure it out) is a better theory.

Perhaps... insisting that only those who follow the 'Religion of Evolution' are right and all others are stupid is not the best way to go.

Evolution is just a theory....and...somewhere in the future...it may be proven wrong...or right.

redrock

95 posted on 02/28/2006 8:01:52 AM PST by redrock ("How God Created us...I have no real Idea. Telling God how He 'has to do things'...is not my way")
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If ID/creationism can't even win in Utah, then it's dead.


106 posted on 02/28/2006 8:23:12 AM PST by narby (Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
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"I don't believe that anybody in there really wants their kids to be taught that their great-grandfather was an ape," Buttars said.

This guy gets the Darwin Award.
119 posted on 02/28/2006 8:57:23 AM PST by LanaTurnerOverdrive
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"I don't believe that anybody in there really wants their kids to be taught that their great-grandfather was an ape," Buttars said.

Even those on C side of this argument know that the ToE says it's our COUSINS who are the apes; not ol'; Grandpa!

127 posted on 02/28/2006 9:10:27 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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