Posted on 02/27/2006 5:47:39 PM PST by Stoat
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WOW! I hadn't heard that. I am in emergency services here in the USA, and here we are cautioned to be careful not to cut that cable when doing a vehicle extrication but I haven't heard of any USA EMS or Fire organization refusing to work on hybrids. Amazing!
I wish I could tell you where I read that
I think I'd change my last name.
It saddens me terribly but doesn't really surprise me, considering what I've heard about so much of the rest of current British society.
I'm hoping that drivers in the UK consider this when making an auto purchase. An auto accident can permanently cripple a person in an instant (if it doesn't kill you) and it's just awful to be lying in that hospital bed thinking "would I even be here if I had bought a car that was just a little bit bigger and heavier?"
Even in Britain and Europe, gas is incredibly cheap when compared with a lifetime of misery or death from an auto accident caused by trying to be politically correct in one's auto purchasing choice.
When 4x4's are outlawed, only outlaws will have 4x4's. Hell every thing I own is four wheel drive, exept the'70 Roadrunner and '68 GTX.... I guess I'd be penalized aplenty.
It sounds like you live in an area that has 'real seasons' unlike me :-) But even if you didn't, I'd still want you to be able to choose whatever sort of car you would want to buy, based upon whatever criteria you might choose to employ. That's an essential freedom, in my view.
I think I'd change my last name.
Yes....just about anything would be better (except "Gore", "Clinton" and a few others)
From the tone of the article, it sounds as though you would be more than merely "penalized' in Great Britain....it sounds like you would be picketed 24/7 by massive, organized crowds until you took all of your vehicles to be squished at the wrecking yard and then they would burn your tiny British house to the ground for good measure.
God, I love America!
Absolutely...
This logic works fine....until you remember that the other party in an auto accident is just as likely to be a pedestrian or cyclist (especially in an urban environment). That other party (or rather their surviving relatives) isn't going to be that impressed by the argument that the driver was justified in buying an otherwise unnecessarily heavy car to enhance their own safety. And yet...thinking it through a little further, isn't your logic equally suspect for motor vehicle only collisions? Because if everyone adopts this principle, there will be a continuous leapfrogging of weight and power until everyone is driving main battle tanks - and even then you can't count on being safe, since if you've got a Chieftain someone else will mow you down with an Abrams or whatever. Isn't this a bit like wage-inflation hopscotch in the 1970s? Nobody ever wins - apart from the car makers and salesmen, of course, who are laughing.
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Re your argument about a pedestrian or a cyclist, they are each going to be just as dead regardless of how heavy the car is. Your notion of someone being "justified" in buying a car that is "unnecessarily" heavy is a perspective that is popular in Socialist countries where people are expected to justify what they do to the Government, because they are subjects of the Government, not free citizens, but is not a part of a free society where Government exists at the pleasure of the populace and not the other way around. Perhaps in Europe and the UK a court would ask if you were "justified" in owning such a large car but here in the USA such a question would never be dreamed of in a court of law. People have a right and a responsibility to protect themselves and their families to the best of their abilities, and if a person isn't careful and crosses the street illegally and gets hit, we call that an 'accident', not a crime committed by the driver because they bought a safe car.
As to motor-vehicle only collisions, the important point that you are overlooking is that 'everyone' WON'T do this, because so many believe as you do, that what they do needs to be justified to the Government., and also many people believe the hype about global warming, running out of gasoline, etc. etc or they simply want to have a tiny, politically-correct car so that their friends down at the espresso bar won't shun them Big cars as well as tiny cars have been available since the mid part of last century, and here we are, sixty years later, and we still have LOTS of big cars and LOTS of tiny cars and LOTS of bicycles. In the real world, it simply doesn't work the way Leftist economics professors might have one believe. People do not all think alike (thankfully) and so their economic and consumer choices will always be different.....providing they live in a free society and are allowed to exercise self-determination.
My hope is that you will enjoy your freedoms and buy whatever car you want to for whatever reasons motivate you (even a perceived 'justification' to the Government if that pleases you) and that you might leave the rest of us to the same freedoms, in a world that is free from busybody Socialist politicians attempting to micromanage every aspect of our lives.
Maybe they'd prefer a Harley?
I saw (and heard!) lots of Harleys tinGermany the last time I was there....they seemed to be quite popular.
well, actually, let people buy what they want -- but tax accordingly -- the lighter the car, the lesser the pollution, the lesser the tax. If Joe Bloggs wants to drive a 20 ton gas belcher and is willing to part with a significant amount of quid for the privilege, let 'im
Even though I don't have corroborating evidence in front of me, I'm sure that you're right if only because the entire "Greenhouse gases" mantra is bad science masquerading as fraudulent public policy from one end to the other.
In addition, other posters have mentioned the very real spectre of the battery disposal issue. I understand that at present there's no viable recycling option for the batteries and so every few years a Prius owner will need to shell out $3,000. for another eight hundred pounds of batteries, and put the old ones....where?
Those who want to sacrifice safety and comfort for political correctness are welcome to....they will keep our healthcare industry stocked with trauma patients.
I'm almost tempted to buy a Hybrid SUV to make their wittle bitty heads explode.
Actually, buying and Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive badge off eBay and sticking it onto a Hummer H2 sounds like good clean fun...
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