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1 posted on 02/27/2006 2:46:41 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

What is in the water in Madison?


2 posted on 02/27/2006 2:48:48 PM PST by Patrick1
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

More leftist crap.


3 posted on 02/27/2006 2:49:04 PM PST by deadrock
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
This will not cost the United States as much as you might think, if we follow the "teach a man to fish" school of charity.

And risk the wrath of the PETA babes???

NO WAY!!!

5 posted on 02/27/2006 2:51:21 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The Great Society goes global. Yeah, that'll work.


6 posted on 02/27/2006 2:52:07 PM PST by small voice in the wilderness (...what do you mean "Candy isn't married to Alan..?...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
The grand strategy? Simple: Eliminate poverty throughout the world.

Good grief! These neo-Socialists just won't go away.

It is demonstrably, patently impossible to "eliminate poverty thoughout the world". Wait, perhaps the last umpteen failed Socialist/Communist/Utopian pies in the sky were just flukes. Let you run things, and it would all work beautifully, right?

Spare me.

8 posted on 02/27/2006 2:53:57 PM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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This is brilliant thinking! The way to fix the poverty and despair in Zimbabwe is to send the racist commie Robert Mugabe more money and to quit driving SUVs.

I wish I had thought of it.


11 posted on 02/27/2006 2:55:43 PM PST by Dog Gone
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What a fabulously stupid notion - jumping from the neo-Wilsonian of the second Bush administration to the neo-Johnsonism launching a "war on global poverty."

How about this for a strategy - limited government, republican-style government, and presenting the United States as a federalist model for the world to emulate, not as a enforcer of democratic ideals.

A small example of how this works: When I moved into my home, I spent the first few weeks cleaning up the junk and debris left laying around by the previous owner. I mowed the lawn and put in a garden. Within a year, every neighbor cleaned up his own yard, and the guy across the street built an attractive stone wall. Gardens and lawns are being kept up. I said nothing to anyone, but when it looks good, others follow.


12 posted on 02/27/2006 2:55:58 PM PST by redpoll (redpoll)
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"Liberals fought poverty and poverty won." Ronald Reagan


13 posted on 02/27/2006 2:56:15 PM PST by Honcho
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After 60 years of peddling this drivel and they still don`t realize that the dark side of human nature will always prevent poverty from being eliminated.
14 posted on 02/27/2006 2:56:17 PM PST by carlr
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In other words:

We're going to take more of the money you've earned through your sweat and toil and give it away to people who have done nothing, but that we think deserve it.

That will make us good people for giving the money away, and you bad people for having earned it in the first place.

Power to the people.

15 posted on 02/27/2006 2:57:22 PM PST by tcostell
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Has he consulted Vincente?


16 posted on 02/27/2006 2:57:33 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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The grand strategy? Simple: Eliminate poverty throughout the world.

The solution? Simple: Raise taxes.

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There! See how simple it was...???

What a bunch of loons you've got up there.

18 posted on 02/27/2006 2:58:39 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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This is about the dumbest piece of crap that I have read in sometime, sounds just like the Communist manifesto. Put us in charge and we will spend your money and keep you in the dirt so we can walk all over you.
20 posted on 02/27/2006 2:59:05 PM PST by YOUGOTIT
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Grand Strategy??
We've had Several..
Communism...
Socialism...
The NEW Deal...
The Great Society...
The "New" New Deal...

Same old tripe socialist agenda repackaged for consumption by a newer generation...

The cures for poverty are SIMPLE: EDUCATION, FREEDOM, FREE TRADE, CAPITALISM. All things that leftists hate.....


21 posted on 02/27/2006 3:03:07 PM PST by tcrlaf
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Can we also agree that eliminating poverty will reduce resentment toward the United States among the people of Africa, South America and the Middle East (a leading cause of terrorism)?

Uh, no we can't agree on that. We already give billions of dollars in foreign aid to those countries and it does nothing but increase their resentment of us.

...eliminating poverty is a dominant message of the Bible...

No it's not. The dominant message of the Bible is accepting Jesus Christ as your Savior. That certainly involves giving to charity and helping the poor. But that is a voluntary action and choice that a person makes to become more like Christ. There is nothing Christian about forcing people to charity.

...if we follow the "teach a man to fish" school of charity.

Actually a good point. Let's eliminate the "give a man a fish" school of charity that we have engaged in for the last 40 years. If you truly want to "teach a man to fish" then admit that the "Great" Society and the War on Poverty have been complete and total failures and have done nothing but increase poverty. Lets eliminate welfare and other handouts and replace them with programs that encourage people to work. Instead of a welfare check, you get job training. Somehow, I don't think that's what the author, or Clark, are referring to. And I know that the bulk of the Democratic party will never go for that.

24 posted on 02/27/2006 3:06:34 PM PST by usapatriot28
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You are a stronger woman than I am to have to deal with that type mentality on a regular basis.........


25 posted on 02/27/2006 3:06:43 PM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies: small minds buzzing in you business........SWAT'EM)
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This guy's an idiot. Our pastor tried to sell us on Bono's One World initiative last Sunday.

I just shook my head.

He asked me afterward what I knew about it, and that I seemed sort of resistant to it.

I said that I was. The issue with poverty in most of these third world dumps isn't a lack of local resources. The problem was a corrupt government that kept the poor hungry and the rich isolated from them. I said that unless you were willing to carry your cash down with the 3rd ID ready to displace whatever despot happened to be living in the presidential palace, that the cash wasn't going to get to the people you wanted to send it.

Even if you did depose the local idiot by force, its likely another idiot would take his place. Look at how fast it takes Republicans to go native once they are sent to DC.

Nigeria is the very best example. It's long been considered the garden of Africa. In addition to oil, it's got rubber, strategic metals, gems, etc. No excuse for it to be anything other than rich, save for the string of military juntas, the 1800 tribes speaking different languages, and the ongoing antagonation between Muslims and Christians there.

Less remotely, look at Mexico. With Pemex around, there's no reason to bail Mexico out of anything, especially with oil at $60+ per barrel.

However, if that's the best the D's can do, "Let's bring back the war on poverty, but this time let's make sure the taxpayer foots the bill for the rest of the entire world."

I'd love to see that on an election year.


26 posted on 02/27/2006 3:07:05 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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Somebody's been smoking waaaaaaay too much dope.


29 posted on 02/27/2006 3:08:56 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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In a recent speech in Washington, Gen. Wesley Clark...

That's where I stopped.

30 posted on 02/27/2006 3:09:13 PM PST by airborne
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"Democratic ideas"

Now *there's* an oxymoron!

Their last new idea was Jimmy Carter's gas rationing - and its been downhill since then.


31 posted on 02/27/2006 3:09:18 PM PST by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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