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Now moderate Muslims are angry too
Global Echo ^ | 2/27/06 | Yasmin Alibhai-Brown

Posted on 02/27/2006 12:19:31 PM PST by LibWhacker

So, Guantanamo Bay is an "anomaly" is it Mr Blair? Caging, manacling, beating, isolating, threatening, terrorising, torturing 500 - fathers, brothers, husbands, sons - seems to you just an oddity, an eccentricity, a peculiarity then? How could you not choke on your own words and splutter with shame even as you uttered them?

For four years they have hovered between life and death, some now praying for the latter, as I would too. They have to endure existence without time and reason, submit to brute power, pray in open enclosure while they are bitten and burnt, denied basic human dignity. Only nine inmates have thus far been charged. Having won their right to Habeas Corpus and to make their pleas in the US Supreme Court, that other dishonest charmer, Senator John McCain had that right removed. You, Mr Blair, know evil and collude with it. Your faithful oligarchy and obliging journalists are no better.

Human rights lie bloody and tattered in the US, Iraq, Israel, Afghanistan, Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Pakistan, secret "extraordinary rendition" centres on the European mainland and in our own prisons. And all the while you swish the cloak of virtue. If it wasn't such a scandal it would be funny, Bush and you, as Batman and Robin, flying through the skies to save the world.

This week, I have been at three events where the majority of people in the audience were educated, sharp Muslims, some exceedingly rich and good friends with key politicians and Prince Charles. Guantanamo Bay and the civil strife in Iraq are topics that now madden even these establishmentarians.

One gentleman took my elbow, shuffled me to a discreet corner and whispered: "I have been here for 40 years, dined with royalty. Today if I was young, I would go straight to Bin Laden. Mr Blair is a war criminal. Don't put my name down, but tell him we detest him." He then said my watch was too cheap and that he would be honoured to give me one more befitting my status. No thanks I said, I didn't need a bribe to say what I feel more every day.

What a waste of hope. Remember the idealistic young Prime Minister? We believed he would take us into a more equal, ethical and accountable Britain. He did deliver in some areas of social policy but all of that now hardly matters as Guantanamo Bay (and Iraq too) once again rise, refusing to be buried by good news. A searing new film, Road to Guantanamo, by Michael Winterbottom (to be shown on Channel 4 on 9 March) tells the story of three young, innocent British Muslim men from Tipton in the West Midlands who spent time in that hell. Their ankles still show indentations from the shackles.

Many people, including me, have asked, how could British citizens bomb London? Not enough have asked that other equally disturbing question: How can Britain consent to this violent injustice meted out to its citizens and others? For Blair the answer is obvious. it is payback for 11 September, when "everything changed" and presumably anything goes. A man fond of targets and numbers, he has not yet told us how many lives need to be paid for each of those poor people blown up in the US. How much bloodshed before the blown up are appeased?

We, the people, witness this arrogance and incessant dissembling and are helpless. Is it any wonder millions have lost faith in politics, honour, in language itself?

Today, Baroness Kennedy's Power Inquiry releases its findings on the democratic health of the nation. It is the biggest-ever national study of political engagement. Britons are not apathetic but are disengaging from a democracy which has turned into its own enemy. Real democrats are protecting themselves from the diseased body politic and its raving behaviour that is spreading a pandemic of fear. Guantanamo Bay is the boil. Never mind bird flu, it is Bush and Blair fever we must contain before it ravages the world.


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KEYWORDS: angry; blair; bush; gitmo; guantanamo; islam; moderate; muslims; trop
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1 posted on 02/27/2006 12:19:36 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

My response to the headline is who gives a damn?


2 posted on 02/27/2006 12:20:59 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: LibWhacker; sure_fine

moderate muslim = BS.

islamists want to kill us; muslims just want us dead.


3 posted on 02/27/2006 12:22:08 PM PST by butternut_squash_bisque (Borders, Language, Cultureā„¢)
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To: Rummyfan
"My response to the headline is who gives a damn?"

Mine too.

4 posted on 02/27/2006 12:23:29 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: LibWhacker
Seminar caller?

"I have been a moderate Muslim all my life. I even voted for George Bush, but what I see today really upsets me ..."

It's BS.

5 posted on 02/27/2006 12:24:33 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (E)
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To: LibWhacker
Caging, manacling, beating, isolating, threatening, terrorising, torturing 500 - fathers, brothers, husbands, sons - seems to you just an oddity, an eccentricity, a peculiarity then...

Bombing, poisoning, and sniping at Armies (Iraqi, Afghani, British, and American), at civilians, at mosques, at markets, at farmers, at stores, and being caught doing so, admitting to as much, and swearing to continue if released seems to you to be normal, rational behavior of a Muslim?

Dumb ****.

6 posted on 02/27/2006 12:24:44 PM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: LibWhacker
"Caging, manacling, beating, isolating, threatening, terrorising, torturing 500 - fathers, brothers, husbands, sons - seems to you just an oddity, an eccentricity, a peculiarity then?"

Hmmmm...and they're all still alive to whine about it.

7 posted on 02/27/2006 12:25:03 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: LibWhacker

That is why God gave the Cluster Bombs to the Christians. "Moderate" Muslims are moderate because it is that or be DEAD Muslims. It is only the fringe suicide death cultist Muslims that haven't figured that out.....YET. In time they will all be "moderate" or they will be dead. Next question from Wacko Leftist land?


8 posted on 02/27/2006 12:25:09 PM PST by MNJohnnie ("Good men don't wait for the polls. They stand on principle and fight."-Soul Seeker)
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9 posted on 02/27/2006 12:25:10 PM PST by Jaxter ("Vivit Post Funera Virtus")
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To: LibWhacker
Today if I was young, I would go straight to Bin Laden.

Wanna bet his $$$ is going to OBL?

10 posted on 02/27/2006 12:25:43 PM PST by AmericaUnite
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To: LibWhacker

"I have been here for 40 years, dined with royalty. Today if I was young, I would go straight to Bin Laden. Mr Blair is a war criminal. Don't put my name down, but tell him we detest him."



When will the West be able to cast aside the facade and honestly call our enemy by it's true name.

Islam.


11 posted on 02/27/2006 12:26:02 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: LibWhacker
For four years they have hovered between life and death, some now praying for the latter, as I would too.

Gross melodrama turns to farcical comedy really fast.
In my universe, all those illegal comabatants would have been DEAD right after capture.
That, certainly, would not be an anomaly...

I could not read further than this. Tolerance for the mentally handicapped has its limits...

12 posted on 02/27/2006 12:26:05 PM PST by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: LibWhacker
pray in open enclosure while they are bitten and burnt

This happens to me also when I go on vacation to Florida. Are my rights being trampled on by the sun and bugs? Egad, I never knew vacation was turning me less than human.
13 posted on 02/27/2006 12:26:37 PM PST by steel_resolve (Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammo.)
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To: LibWhacker

If they're so angry at Blair they should move to an Islamic country. If they think their whining is going to have people less pissed off at them, they're wrong.


14 posted on 02/27/2006 12:27:10 PM PST by winner3000
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To: LibWhacker

Thought the Moderate Muslims were going to decry terrorism.

No such luck.


15 posted on 02/27/2006 12:27:31 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (The Prophet Muhammed, Piss Be Upon Him)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque
moderate muslim = BS.

A moderate Muslim is one who is biding his time.

16 posted on 02/27/2006 12:27:40 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: LibWhacker
500 are still alive and in good enough shape to complain.

Over 3,000 are dead and have no voice except what we give them.

Never Forget, Never Forgive (Rememberence Archive 9-11-01)

17 posted on 02/27/2006 12:28:30 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: LibWhacker
Caging, manacling, beating, isolating, threatening, terrorising, torturing

Good grief. This hyperbole with respect to Gitmo is really getting out of hand. The sad thing is that I believe this is what most of the world thinks is really going on there.

The president needs to do a much better job of explaining why Guantanamo exists and for heaven's sake explain why the "charge them or release them" mantra is so ridiculous.
18 posted on 02/27/2006 12:29:01 PM PST by notfornothing
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So, how many of the author's beloved fathers, brothers, husbands, and sons terrorists were released from Club Gitmo only to be captured or killed later on while resuming their jihad?

Screw him and his "angry moderate muslims". Some people will only learn the error of their ways once the bullet exits the back of their brains.

19 posted on 02/27/2006 12:29:15 PM PST by AngryJawa ("But honey, I *need* a Main Battle Rifle...[NRA])
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To: Rummyfan
My response to the headline is who gives a damn?

Ah yes. The muzzies are always mad and in a rage. What's new? My "give a damn" doesn't work any more.

20 posted on 02/27/2006 12:30:05 PM PST by jslade (Liberalism ALWAYS accomplishes the exact opposite of it's stated intent!)
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