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Sights set on local gun manufacturers (Illinois)
Quad-Cities Online ^ | February 26, 2006 | Stephen Elliott

Posted on 02/26/2006 2:09:34 PM PST by holymoly

Henry County is known by many as the Gun Valley of Illinois.

However, that could change if a bill making its way through the Illinois House of Representatives becomes law.

HB2414, sponsored by Rep. Edward Acevedo, D-Chicago, would make it illegal to manufacture, possess or deliver semi-automatic assault weapons, assault-weapon attachments, .50-caliber rifles and .50-caliber cartridges.

Last session, a similar bill sponsored by Rep. Acevedo fell three votes short of passage in the Illinois House.

If this one passes, it could affect five Quad-Cities area firearms manufacturers, three of them in Henry County -- Springfield Armory and ArmaLite Inc., both of Geneseo; Rock River Arms, Colona; Les Baer Custom, Hillsdale; and Lewis Machine and Tool Co., Milan.

It could mean the loss of several hundred jobs, and work for some area subcontractors. For companies such as Springfield Armory, which has 165 full-time employees, and ArmaLite, which has 85 employees, it also could mean a move to another state.

ArmaLite, which makes a .50-caliber rifle, gets much of its business from collectors, competitive target shooters, government agencies and the military, owner Mark Westrom said.

"The word is out on Illinois" about the bill, Mr. Westrom said. "We're getting letters of interest from South Dakota, Arkansas, Oklahoma. They're inviting us to come to their state."

Mr. Westrom said the .50-caliber models ArmaLike makes sell for about $3,000 and are a "long-range target gun. It's not something you manhandle around and use in a crime.

"Could it be misused? Heavens, a kitchen knife is misused far, far more. The .50-caliber is big, and most are very ugly. Their sin is they are the biggest that are allowed."

He said the nearly 5-foot long rifle is loud and weighs 34 pounds without accessories. "It's not something anyone is misusing in a car or a truck."

Mr. Westrom believes HB2414 is a feel-good measure for politicians, particularly those from Chicago and its suburbs.

Sen. Todd Sieben, R-Geneseo, opposes the bill, but says it's coming up in an election year, which may have an impact. "Generally speaking, gun-control bills have not passed the senate. Some bills are in districts where gun control is important for re-election."

National Rifle Association spokesman Todd Vandermyde said the bill would prohibit virtually everything ArmaLite makes and a third to a half of the production line that comes out of Springfield Armory.

He said it also would take a good chunk of business from Les Baer, Rock River Arms and Lewis Machine and Tool. "The bill makes it a crime for replacement parts. "Basically, you've got to look at every single gun and make a determination (what's legal)."

Rebecca Rausch, spokeswoman for Gov. Rod Blagojevich, said she couldn't comment on the potential job loss if the bill passed, but she did say the governor believes the bill is a way to make streets safer.

"The .50-caliber rifle is something the governor believes should be banned," she said. "It's one of the most destructive weapons available to the public. The governor is concerned with taking these weapons off the street."

Rep. Acevedo said, if the bill, which has been amended eight times, is enacted, gun manufacturers would have to adapt and make different weapons.

"I'm sure they are going to continue manufacturing different sorts of weapons," he said. "How did they survive when the ban was in effect on the federal level?"

As far as losing jobs, Rep. Acevedo said, "Did they ever hire more when the federal ban was not reinstated? So, as far as losing jobs or employment, I don't think it's affected one way or another."

Mr. Westrom said there wasn't a ban on the manufacture of .50-caliber rifles during the federal ban enacted by Congress in 1994. When that ban ran out 10 years later, it wasn't reinstated.

Mr. Vandermyde said there are major differences between the federal ban and Illinois bill. For instance, having two or more military-style features, like a pistol grip or a flash suppresor, on a firearm would be illegal under the federal ban, but the Illinois law would prohibit any features.

Springfield Armory co-owner Dennis Reese said the federal ban forced his company to modify its guns to be different from what they are now. "It was problematic for us, because people wanted the original-looking rifles."

Mr. Reese and Mr. Westrom said they've added employees since the federal ban was lifted. Mr. Reese said a state ban would put his products at a competitive disadvantage with gun manufacturers around the country who might have larger magazine capacities and other items prohibited in Illinois.

Illinois House Majority Leader Barbara Flynn Currie, D-Chicago, believes HB2414 picks up where the federal ban left off. As for job loss in Henry County, Rep. Currie said, "Yes, I'm in favor of jobs. I don't know if I'm in favor of jobs if it's all about doing things to kill people. The balance comes down on the side of safety."

Mr. Vandermyde said the Illinois bill is much more prohibitive than the federal ban.

"The politicians that say they are the same are either woefully stupid or intentionally lying."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
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"We're getting letters of interest from South Dakota, Arkansas, Oklahoma. They're inviting us to come to their state."

Come to Michigan. It's closer.

Rebecca Rausch, spokeswoman for Gov. Rod Blagojevich, said...

"The .50-caliber rifle is something the governor believes should be banned," she said..."The governor is concerned with taking these weapons off the street."

This is why I loathe and detest anti-gun zealots.

Is this woman being purposely deceptive?

Or is she so profoundly mentally retarded, that she honestly believes that people are walking around the streets, carrying 5 ft. long, 35 lb., .50-caliber rifles?

1 posted on 02/26/2006 2:09:35 PM PST by holymoly
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To: holymoly

What part of "infringed" do these geniuses not understand?


2 posted on 02/26/2006 2:15:35 PM PST by D.P.Roberts
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To: D.P.Roberts

The 2nd Amendment doesn't exist for them.


3 posted on 02/26/2006 2:21:11 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: holymoly

They would be welcome here in Missouri. There are already a few gun makers making small numbers of arms here.


4 posted on 02/26/2006 2:25:53 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: holymoly
Is this woman being purposely deceptive?

Yes.

5 posted on 02/26/2006 2:26:46 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: holymoly

Note that such calibers are not used to kill "one's spouse" or neighbors.

Obviously some lawyers want to see some power over the sheeples. Pesky juries need not bother their business.


6 posted on 02/26/2006 2:31:35 PM PST by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: holymoly
All I need to know about Illinois is how the state stands and supports the 2nd Amendment. It tells me that the state is run by leftist, democrat, communist, and corrupt politicians.
7 posted on 02/26/2006 2:32:24 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: holymoly
My DSA Arms .308 is made in IL. Of course to anti-gun leftists, workers added to the unemployment roles is considered a success. That being the business they're in and all. If they drive these Companies out I suspect some of the employees may pull the plug and GTH out of there.
8 posted on 02/26/2006 2:34:06 PM PST by n230099
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To: vetvetdoug

Just call it the ISSR. (Illinois Soviet Socialist Republic) The place has been competing for nutjob status with Massachusetts and other Bolshevik ratholes for a long time.


9 posted on 02/26/2006 2:35:49 PM PST by Luke21
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To: vetvetdoug; tet68; Lurker; Squantos; Travis McGee; Eaker; Joe Brower

Tell them to come on over to Kentucky. I live about 3 miles from the Remington Arms R&D facility. Firearms friendly!


10 posted on 02/26/2006 2:36:29 PM PST by SLB (Wyoming's Alan Simpson on the Washington press - "all you get is controversy, crap and confusion")
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To: holymoly
"The .50-caliber rifle is something the governor believes should be banned," she said. "It's one of the most destructive weapons available to the public. The governor is concerned with taking these weapons off the street."

Translation:

We are concerned that a legally armed populace will interfere with our plans to transform America from a sovereign constitutional republic to our desired communist like socialist utopia where the citizens wealth can be redistributed at the fancy of government for the "common good" and our plans to slowly force subservience to international law and the United Nations governing body by replacing the antiquated US Constitution. Again this is all for the "common good" and eventually the citizens will thank us once they have been reeducated - ahhh I mean, once they have become enlightened.
11 posted on 02/26/2006 2:38:52 PM PST by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: facedown
"The .50-caliber rifle is something the governor believes should be banned," she said..."The governor is concerned with taking these weapons off the street."

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You know damn well that the little twit doesn't know the difference between this and a .25 Caliber popgun. She'd wet her pants if she heard one fired in her presence.

12 posted on 02/26/2006 2:41:17 PM PST by WideGlide (That light at the end of the tunnel might be a muzzle flash.)
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To: holymoly
"The .50-caliber rifle is something the governor believes should be banned," she said. "It's one of the most destructive weapons available to the public. The governor is concerned with taking these weapons off the street."

Good grief. I've been shooting for almost thirty years and have yet to see one of these things on a range, no less the street. Saw one in a gun store once, that's it.

13 posted on 02/26/2006 2:45:40 PM PST by RogueIsland (.)
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i cant comment on this right now without getting suspended or banned


14 posted on 02/26/2006 2:46:43 PM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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no comment right now or ill get banned

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15 posted on 02/26/2006 2:47:55 PM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: Henchster


16 posted on 02/26/2006 2:50:41 PM PST by Ironclad (O Tempora! O Mores!)
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To: Wolfhound777

You hit the nail on the head.


17 posted on 02/26/2006 2:51:22 PM PST by holymoly (Dick DeVos for MI Governor: http://www.devosforgovernor.com/)
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To: holymoly; All
And, of course, while we're all talking about the .50 cal, let's not forget this little tidbit:

make it illegal to manufacture, possess or deliver semi-automatic assault weapons, assault-weapon attachments

There goes all your semi-autos. Good-bye little Ruger 10/22.

And "attachements"? Would that include magazines, by any chance?

18 posted on 02/26/2006 2:54:50 PM PST by holymoly (Dick DeVos for MI Governor: http://www.devosforgovernor.com/)
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To: holymoly

Maryland decided that they're going to effectively outlaw WalMart, and some other lib dweebs are hopping on that little bandwagon.

Illinois doesn't want firearms manufacturing? How long before those same "experts" start out on other businesses?

I grew up there, but left Illinois 40 years ago.

If this article is any indication, I don't think I'll bother with reunions OR business with the place.


19 posted on 02/26/2006 3:06:05 PM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet ("Antique" MSM infers some remaining functionality; IMO they're the zombie media.)
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To: Ironclad
It could mean the loss of several hundred jobs, and work for some area subcontractors. For companies such as Springfield Armory, which has 165 full-time employees, and ArmaLite, which has 85 employees, it also could mean a move to another state.

Talk about "shooting yourself in the foot," I'll be surprised if this passes simply because corrupt Illinois politicians can't give up the tax base protection racket revenue.

New Tagline for .50BMG threads:

20 posted on 02/26/2006 3:13:00 PM PST by Henchster (My .50 BMG has a PERFECT safety record, unlike Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile)
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