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The article Science Magazine doesn't want you to read
CERC ^ | 02.16.06 | PETER A. LAWRENCE

Posted on 02/25/2006 1:56:39 PM PST by Coleus

An academic controversy recently erupted over the decision of Science Magazine editors to refuse publication of an article about gender difference by British biologist Peter Lawrence. Though the prestigious journal had given Dr. Lawrence a publication date and article proofs, Science editor-in-chief Donald Kennedy abruptly notified the author that the piece could not be published because it did not offer "a strategy on how to deal with the gender issue." The article, in edited form, is reproduced below.

Some have a dream that, one fine day, there will be equal numbers of men and women in all jobs, including those in scientific research. But I think this dream is Utopian; it assumes that if all doors were opened and all discrimination ended, the different sexes would be professionally indistinguishable. Here I will argue, as others have many times before, that men and women simply are born different.   It is not easy to write about this subject. The Cambridge University psychologist Simon Baron-Cohen published research on the "male brain" in a specialist journal in 1997, but did not dare to talk about his ideas in public for several years.

Baron-Cohen makes one point clear: You cannot deduce the psychological characteristics of any person by knowing their sex. Arguing from the scientific literature that men and women typically have different types of brains, he nevertheless points out that "some women have the male brain, and some men have the female brain." Stereotyping is unscientific — "individuals are just that: individuals."   Yet Baron-Cohen presents evidence that males on average are biologically predisposed to systemize, to analyze, and to be more forgetful of others, while females on average are innately designed to empathize, to communicate, and to care for others.


Many facts argue that these differences have their roots in biology and genetics. For instance, newborn infants (less than 24 hours old) have been shown a real human face and a mobile of the same size and similar colour. On average, boys looked longer at the mobile and girls looked longer at the face.


Many facts argue that these differences have their roots in biology and genetics. For instance, newborn infants (less than 24 hours old) have been shown a real human face and a mobile of the same size and similar colour. On average, boys looked longer at the mobile and girls looked longer at the face.

Autism spectrum conditions provide another example. People with these problems communicate poorly; they are unable to put themselves in another's place, and have difficulties with empathizing. They may treat others as objects. They often become obsessed and show repetitive behaviour. The less severely affected can become experts on recondite subjects, such as train timetables or ocean temperatures. Most relevant for our arguments is that autism spectrum conditions are largely sex-limited, being between four and nine times more frequent in males. From many studies, including psychology and neuroanatomy, Baron-Cohen argues convincingly that autism spectrum conditions are an extreme form of maleness.

It will not have escaped the notice of many scientists that some of their colleagues and maybe themselves have more than a hint of these "autistic" features. There is good evidence that this type of single-mindedness is particularly common in males. Indeed, we might acknowledge that a limited amount of autistic behaviour can be useful to researchers and to society. For example, a lifetime's academic concentration on a family of beetles with more than 100,000 species may seem weird, but we need several such people in the world for each family. And most of these specialists will be men.

It follows that if we search objectively for an obsessive knowledge, for a mastery of abstruse facts, or for mechanical understanding, we will select many more men than women. And if males on average are constitutionally better suited to be this kind of scientist, it seems silly to aim at strict gender parity. However, in professions that rely on an ability to put oneself in another's place, at which women on average are far superior, we should expect and want a majority of women. For example, among current student members of the British Psychological Society, there are 5,806 women to 945 men; and among graduate psychologists, 23,324 women to 8,592 men.

Many who have turned their attention to explaining the fall out of women from the hard sciences have ascribed the phenomenon to a mixture of discrimination and choice. Regarding overt discrimination, in a lifetime in science, I have seen only little, and it has been both for and against women. Surely, gender discrimination cannot explain more than a tiny part of this trend.   But there is a different kind of discrimination that particularly damages creative pursuits such as science. There is good psychological evidence that aggression and lack of empathy are on average male characteristics, and we may agree with Baron-Cohen that for both sexes, "nastiness … gets you higher socially, and gets you more control or power." In this struggle, men climb higher because they are on average more ruthless, and many women, as well as a gentle minority of men, shy away from competing with them.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: autism; gender; godsgravesglyphs; malebrain; peteralawrence; science; simonbaroncohen; sociology
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1 posted on 02/25/2006 1:56:41 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Coleus

Yawn...

Too long and complicated to read.

Think I'll go read one of those magazines that the church doesn't want me to read, instead.


2 posted on 02/25/2006 1:58:56 PM PST by lOKKI (You can ignore reality until it bites you in the ass.)
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To: lOKKI

bye, have fun.


3 posted on 02/25/2006 2:00:15 PM PST by Coleus (What were Ted Kennedy & his nephew doing on Good Friday, 1991? Getting drunk and raping women)
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To: Coleus

Here's come trivia, the Cambridge Professor of Developmental Psychopathology Simon Baron-Cohen is a cousin of Ali G aka Borat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacha_Baron_Cohen


4 posted on 02/25/2006 2:00:57 PM PST by TrebleRebel
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To: Coleus

All I know is that when my boys were quite young - and having not been subjected very little gender stereotyping - I still couldn't get them to even walk down the isle of girls' toys at Toys-R-Us.


5 posted on 02/25/2006 2:03:04 PM PST by The Duke
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To: Coleus
Baron-Cohen argues convincingly that autism spectrum conditions are an extreme form of maleness.

I wonder if this guarantees that 2 young boys I know who live in my neighborhood will, one day, embody all the physical characteristics of either Arnold Schwarzenagger John Wayne or Harrison Ford.

6 posted on 02/25/2006 2:04:05 PM PST by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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To: DirtyHarryY2K

ping


7 posted on 02/25/2006 2:04:33 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Coleus

Women are smarter than men, I know this. My wife tells me everyday.........


8 posted on 02/25/2006 2:06:29 PM PST by mosquewatch.com ("The enemy is anyone who will get you killed, no matter what side they are on.")
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To: Coleus

"It follows that if we search objectively for an obsessive knowledge, for a mastery of abstruse facts, or for mechanical understanding, we will select many more men than women."

An obvious example of this are sports statistics.


9 posted on 02/25/2006 2:08:03 PM PST by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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To: jocon307
"It follows that if we search objectively for an obsessive knowledge, for a mastery of abstruse facts, or for mechanical understanding, we will select many more men than women."

How many female mechanics are there??????

10 posted on 02/25/2006 2:10:43 PM PST by raybbr (ANWR is a barren, frozen wasteland - like the mind of a democrat!)
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To: Coleus

This article mentions a fallout of women from the hard sciences...when my younger son graduated from college, he got his degree in Applied Physics Engineering...of all the students receiving their degrees, in this particular venue of study, among those receiving their bachelors degrees, there were no women, among those receiving their masters degrees, there were no women, and among those receiving their doctorates, there was only one woman...

Also, from all those graduating, almost all of the students, with the exception of my own son, one of his best friends, and the lady receiving the doctorate, the greatest percentage of all of the other graduates were Asians...

It really was a lopsided view of this particular branch of study...almost all male, and almost all Asians...


11 posted on 02/25/2006 2:16:36 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: Incorrigible
Interesting. FYI:

...autism spectrum conditions are an extreme form of maleness.

My son is very masculine, apparently.

12 posted on 02/25/2006 2:17:18 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day ("Without God all things are permissible." -- Dostoevsky)
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To: Coleus

Just think, someday a scientist may figure out men have an edge in warfare too.


13 posted on 02/25/2006 2:20:06 PM PST by ansel12
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To: The Duke

"I still couldn't get them to even walk down the isle of girls' toys at Toys-R-Us."

LOL! You got real boys, no metro types.


14 posted on 02/25/2006 2:22:33 PM PST by jwh_Denver (Don't ask me any questions, I've lawyered up.)
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15 posted on 02/25/2006 2:32:56 PM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: ExcursionGuy84

Baron-Cohen argues convincingly that autism spectrum conditions are an extreme form of maleness.

I wonder if this guarantees that 2 young boys I know who live in my neighborhood will, one day, embody all the physical characteristics of either Arnold Schwarzenagger John Wayne or Harrison Ford.

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No. But it is no coincidence that the geek is a male stereotype.


16 posted on 02/25/2006 2:35:24 PM PST by Phil Connors
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To: Coleus

ENTJ


17 posted on 02/25/2006 2:36:48 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: The Duke

Correct. Anybody who has observed kids in day-care and preschool for a long time will come to the conclusion that psychological gender differences are in the hardware.


18 posted on 02/25/2006 2:40:04 PM PST by buwaya
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To: buwaya

Sexist! You must resign as President of Harvard University!


19 posted on 02/25/2006 2:45:20 PM PST by Phil Connors
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To: The Duke
"I still couldn't get them to even walk down the isle of girls' toys at Toys-R-Us."

On the other hand, my youngest daughter's favorite aisle was the toy guns.

20 posted on 02/25/2006 3:38:40 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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