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1 posted on 02/24/2006 11:36:32 AM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 02/24/2006 11:36:55 AM PST by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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4 posted on 02/24/2006 11:58:16 AM PST by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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"Modern anthropologies that attribute to the embryo the status of a human person only from the moment when there is self-awareness -- at the end of the pregnancy -- or even when there is a manifestation of rational consciousness -- which occurs long after birth -- are characterized by a profound dualism not able to explain the human being as a substantial unity" of body and mind or spirit, the bishop said.

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I'm glad to see this open discussion and teaching.

5 posted on 02/24/2006 11:59:24 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Father FitzGerald said the risk [of PGD] is a move "from seeing a child as an unconditionally welcomed gift to seeing him as a conditionally acceptable product."

excellent statement.

7 posted on 02/24/2006 12:26:27 PM PST by bourbon (everything inside screams for second life)
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the embryo is a developing human from the very beginning.

This is what confuses me. If eighty percent of human embryos are spontaneously aborted in menstruation, should we require menstrual fluids be examined to save those humans?
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9 posted on 02/24/2006 12:33:37 PM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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"Respect for the human embryo from the moment of conception, he said, is an "ethically sustainable position supported by scientific data and philosophical reasoning.""

"The academy chose to look specifically at embryos before implantation, which begins to occur about seven days after fertilization and is complete by 14 days after fertilization, because some scientists and ethicists insist that pregnancy does not begin until the embryo is implanted in the uterus."

There's no controversy---both are correct. The embryo is fully human from conception, and pregnancy starts with implantation. If technology existed to extract the embryo prior to implantation and support it with nutrients and so forth, at the end of nine months, you'd have a baby.

10 posted on 02/24/2006 12:47:50 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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THE CODE FOR HUMAN LIFE

13 posted on 02/24/2006 2:21:14 PM PST by Coleus (What were Ted Kennedy & his nephew doing on Good Friday, 1991? Getting drunk and raping women)
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14 posted on 02/24/2006 2:28:03 PM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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Few people understand that the Church was founded on logic and "moral" (as we call it now) philosophy. Its sort of a "if this, therefore that" kind of thing. The Church arrives at it's conclusions using this logic, unlike the proponents of abortion, who have no problem with breaking the logic train if it gets in the way of what they want.

The Constitution was based on similar logic.
26 posted on 02/24/2006 6:02:59 PM PST by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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32 posted on 02/25/2006 4:35:25 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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