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Fossil Overturns Ideas of Jurassic Mammals
AP ^ | February 23, 2006 2:43 PM EST | RANDOLPH E. SCHMID

Posted on 02/23/2006 12:30:53 PM PST by VadeRetro

This image provided by the journal Science shows a Castorcauda lustrasimilis, a docodont mammaliaform from the Middle Jurrassic .Characterized by an evolutionary convergence of its "beaver-like" tail, and some dental feautres for feeding small fish and invertebrates convergent to that of an otter. MARK A. KLINGER

WASHINGTON - The discovery of a furry, beaver-like animal that lived at the time of dinosaurs has overturned more than a century of scientific thinking about Jurassic mammals.

The find shows that the ecological role of mammals in the time of dinosaurs was far greater than previously thought, said Zhe-Xi Luo, curator of vertebrate paleontology at Carnegie Museum of Natural History in Pittsburgh.

The animal is the earliest swimming mammal to have been found and was the most primitive mammal to be preserved with fur, which is important to helping keep a constant body temperature, Luo said in a telephone interview.

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To: narby
Still!!??
141 posted on 02/23/2006 3:54:45 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: Junior; MineralMan; dirtboy

If they're real rock heads they know that dissolved and re-crystallized CaCO3 is what holds most sedimentary rock together.


142 posted on 02/23/2006 3:58:18 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: editor-surveyor
I doubt that anyone, yourself included, has any idea what you were trying to say.

Hmmm. Post #113 seems clear enough to me. Perhaps you're brain damaged? Or perhaps I am?

Let's take a survey.

Hey everyone! Is post #113 unclear?

143 posted on 02/23/2006 4:02:57 PM PST by null and void (Imagine what they would be doing if it wasn't a religion of peace!!!)
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To: null and void

Try re-phrazing it


144 posted on 02/23/2006 4:05:29 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: editor-surveyor

It's clearly a fake, otherwise the same process that fossilized the foot would have fossilized the boot. Duh.


145 posted on 02/23/2006 4:07:37 PM PST by null and void (Imagine what they would be doing if it wasn't a religion of peace!!!)
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To: editor-surveyor
Nobody said anything about dissolving any silica,

You realize that most rocks are cemented with silica, not carbonate. Silica doesn't dissolve appreciably in cold water.
So what model for your flood account for the rapid dissolution of staggering quantities of SiO2 without harming all those delicate little bones? Or are you going to argue that all fossils are found in carbonate rocks?
Of course, there's the question of where all that water came from and went to, all in a timespan of a few weeks.

146 posted on 02/23/2006 4:08:30 PM PST by blowfish
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To: null and void
Don't know about 113, but anyone who would say geysers and and hot springs are nearly sterile must be brain dead.


147 posted on 02/23/2006 4:11:17 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: longshadow; VadeRetro; RadioAstronomer
Vade's been warned about the Grand Master's attitude concerning such matters. Darwin Central ain't West Virginia.
148 posted on 02/23/2006 4:13:26 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: null and void; editor-surveyor
Your concerns seem clear enough to me. A similar point is raised here:

However, it seems very implausible that bones and flesh would be "petrified" while the boot, presumably made of leather (another organic material), remained virtually unaltered. This inconsistency alone would warrant that reliable independent investigators be allowed to closely examine the contents of the boot to evaluate Baugh's claims.
Carl Baugh's Dumb-Ass Boot
149 posted on 02/23/2006 4:14:37 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: PatrickHenry
"Almost heaven, the Galapagos!?" Hah!
150 posted on 02/23/2006 4:16:31 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: js1138
Yeah, but I gave him that point as 'animate life' could be interpreted to mean big-enough-to-see multicellular life.
151 posted on 02/23/2006 4:17:02 PM PST by null and void (Imagine what they would be doing if it wasn't a religion of peace!!!)
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To: VadeRetro; DainBramage
OK, maybe I don't have brain damage.

What say you Dane Bramage?
152 posted on 02/23/2006 4:18:42 PM PST by null and void (Imagine what they would be doing if it wasn't a religion of peace!!!)
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To: dirtboy
Beaver millions of years older than previously believed

You really shouldn't talk about Helen Thomas like that.

153 posted on 02/23/2006 4:18:59 PM PST by dread78645 (Intelligent Design. It causes people to misspeak)
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To: VadeRetro
"Be nice". When evos start believing in science again.
154 posted on 02/23/2006 4:20:50 PM PST by manwiththehands (Fighting daily against the dominant RINO culture.)
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To: VadeRetro

Thanks so much for that link...now, did those creationists really think that their little 'hoax' would not be found out? I notice that this guy has a Creation Evidence Museum in Texas...I need to add that to my list, of fun places to visit...


155 posted on 02/23/2006 4:24:45 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: editor-surveyor; GreenFreeper
Just a matter of time until all will have to recognize that the house of cards is burning as it falls.

This is nothing like finding a human footprint in the Jurassic.

Preservation of specialized, bi-layer fur—one to keep them warm and dry, the other for protection—is the first of its kind in mammals. Beavers and otters, which also have this type of fur, didn't show up until about 55 million and 25 million years ago. Full-time aquatic mammals such as whales and manatees first appear during that period as well.

156 posted on 02/23/2006 4:34:13 PM PST by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: null and void

That definition would exclude most living things. Besides, colonies of bacteria are easy to se, even if the individulae can't be distinguished. Same with us and our cells.


157 posted on 02/23/2006 4:40:59 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Just a matter of time until all will have to recognize that the house of cards is burning as it falls.

You haven't a clue about the field you attempt to critique without knowing the first thing about it, but don't let that stop you.

158 posted on 02/23/2006 4:43:25 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: js1138

Yup.

Baby steps, baby steps...


159 posted on 02/23/2006 4:47:34 PM PST by null and void (Imagine what they would be doing if it wasn't a religion of peace!!!)
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To: Sopater; VadeRetro
Crea: How do you know that that animal was millions of years old?
Evo: Because, it was found in rock that is millions of years old.
Crea: Oh, and how do you know that the rock is millions of years old?
Evo: Becuase, dummy, it has a fossil in it that is millions of years old... Aren't you paying attention?
Crea: Oh, yeah...

Yawn. Let another false creationist distortion. We haven't had one of those in about, oh, three or four full minutes at least.

Here, try to actually learn something for a change, unlike all the other ignorant anti-evolutionists:

Radiometeric Dating Does Work!

Are Radioactive Dating Methods Consistent With Each Other?

Consistent Radiometric dates

Radiometric Dating: A Christian Perspective

Isochron Dating

Radiometric Dating and the Geological Time Scale: Circular Reasoning or Reliable Tools?

Breakthrough Made in Dating of the Geological Record

Formation of the Hawaiian Islands

The Age of the Earth

How Old is the Earth: A Response to “Scientific” Creationism


160 posted on 02/23/2006 4:49:40 PM PST by Ichneumon
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