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To: wideawake

"Unions, like all other forms of organized criminal gangs, should be illegal."

That's so well thought out. I'm glad to see there is no knee jerk involved. Now you can go back to your crayolas.


16 posted on 02/23/2006 6:38:16 AM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: brownsfan

You pro-union?


24 posted on 02/23/2006 6:40:52 AM PST by RushCrush (Indiscriminately posting ad-hominem attacks since 7/2004)
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To: brownsfan
Pick up your crayolas and step this way please....


47 posted on 02/23/2006 6:49:28 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: brownsfan
That's so well thought out.

Unions exist to coerce employers into paying more that their members' labor is worth in a fair and open market.

Unions gain leverage in both ways they admit (fraudulent sick-outs, abandoning jobs they agreed to do, etc.) and in ways they do not admit to, but which are well-known (veiled threats of sabotage, violence, intimidation of replacement hires, etc.).

If any other vendors ganged up on consumers this way they would be looking at civil lawsuits and jailtime.

I'm glad to see there is no knee jerk involved.

You're talking to the wrong person. I have long and hardwon firsthand experience of union criminality.

Pro-unionism is a knee-jerk ideology. It is reinforced by emotionalist garbage like "Norma Rae", cheesy fake folk songs children are taught to learn and sing, constant positive reinforcement of unionism in the press and on TV, etc.

It takes brains and courage to break with this socialist conditioning.

Now you can go back to your crayolas.

You may be confused. I'm not a lazy union GM worker doodling in the job bank center and getting paid 95% of a salary. I'm a self-made man, not a parasite. I learned to read and write using a pen - no union meathead I.

48 posted on 02/23/2006 6:49:31 AM PST by wideawake
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To: brownsfan
"That's so well thought out. I'm glad to see there is no knee jerk involved. Now you can go back to your crayolas."

Actually I think he is spot-on. I've dealt with far too many unions for far too many years, most are just plain criminal in their actions.

96 posted on 02/23/2006 7:19:32 AM PST by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: brownsfan

"That's so well thought out. I'm glad to see there is no knee jerk involved. Now you can go back to your crayolas."

What's knee jerk about it? If companies got together to corner a market on a certain product, they'd get hit with anti-trust lawsuits.

Unions are legalized monopolies, and in Washington State, even though it is ILLEGAL for a state employee to strike, a state employee MUST join the union and pay their dues, or they LOSE THEIR JOBS. That policy came straight from our putative governor's desk not a month ago (www.soundpolitics.org and look up anything from about a month ago).

You want to get together and strike? Be my guest. You want to create an organization that is allowed to impose compulsory membership as a condition of employment, where the dues you pay are garnished from your paycheck? Fly to what's left of Cuba, North Korea, or any of the other fine Communist paradises and join that parade.

If, however, you still want to kick it here in the states you could live in that Detroit-pit-of-hell or Chicagostan. Chicago has a rich commie history.

Want to know the two differences between Ford and Toyota? One is an HMO that makes cars as a hobby, and the other employees Americans to manufacture quality automobiles.


177 posted on 02/23/2006 10:21:57 AM PST by RinaseaofDs (If stupidity were painful, liberals would be extinct)
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To: brownsfan; wideawake
"Unions, like all other forms of organized criminal gangs, should be illegal."

That's so well thought out. I'm glad to see there is no knee jerk involved. Now you can go back to your crayolas.

What do you find wrong with that comment? If you are a union member you know it is true whether you admit it or not.

Years ago I worked for an international company, the largest and most successful in their field, that was headquartered in Cleveland an had plants in Cleveland, Dayton, and Toledo, as well as in several other states. After 80+ years in business the unions finally put them out of business with their unbending rules, selfish unwillingness to negotiate, and purposely mismaking millions of dollars in inventory that had to be thrown away, not to mention the problems it created with customers when the parts weren't up to specs.

I could tell lots of war stories about the unions but I won't take up the space.

178 posted on 02/23/2006 11:45:23 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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