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1 posted on 02/23/2006 4:09:45 AM PST by saveliberty
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All very sensible points, but there seems to be no way to tamp down the hysteria :(


2 posted on 02/23/2006 4:18:05 AM PST by Bahbah (An admitted Snow Flake and a member of Sam's Club)
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Since this deal was apparently approved by low level officials I think it deserves a good in depth look. I don't want to be sitting here ten years down the road in senate hearings trying to figure out who screwed up Gorelick style.


3 posted on 02/23/2006 4:18:52 AM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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For what it's worth, Bob Novak on FNC commented this whole thing is political in motivation by detractors and that Republicans who oppose it, for the most part, are all up for tough reelection this year.

Interesting, in that once again something important is being used for political gain and not the security of the country. But, the usual players are at it one more time.



5 posted on 02/23/2006 4:21:40 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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General Tommy Franks had good things to say about the company purchasing the ports lease, add to that the Coast Guard will still be in charge of security. I don't see any problem with the sale, and we do need friends in the Middle East.


10 posted on 02/23/2006 4:27:40 AM PST by GarySpFc (de oppresso liber)
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How to give moonbats a coronary:

My fellow Americans, we have rescinded the sale of running our ports to foreign interests.

You will be pleased to know that an American firm has stepped up and made an offer to do the same thing and allay the fears regarding homeland security.

That company is Halliburton.

Thank you and good night.

12 posted on 02/23/2006 4:32:48 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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And yet when Walmart contracted out their cleaning service and that cleaning service hired illegals, who's fault was it. Walmart's. I'm still against the port deal. Fine, call me prejudiced, I don't care. There's too many dots that are connecting with DPW. AUE claims it's reformed but I wouldn't leave my kids with a pervert who claims he's been reformed. As Condi says, they only have to be right once, we have to be right every time.
13 posted on 02/23/2006 4:33:24 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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THE SKY IS FALLING...............THE SKY IS FALLING.......damn libs up their old crap again, but this time, the MSM caught a bunch of people off guard...keep in mind, those doing the loudest shouting about this, appear to be the one's with presidential ambitions, both lib and republican. Not a one of the people reacting with shear panic over this non-situation are deserving of the White House....not ONE of them!!!!


15 posted on 02/23/2006 4:34:12 AM PST by joe fonebone (Woodstock defined the current crop of libs, but who cleaned up the mess they left?)
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It's stupid for pubbies to climb into bed with the likes of Chucky, Hillary and Biden et al over this port security issue. Get the facts, screw your heads on straight pubbies. With the Mexican and Canadian borders easy to penetrate, we're worried about al Qaeda attempting to breach US Customs and Coast Guard security at ports?

Republicans in congress are playing into the hands of the democrats. NEVER side with the democrats. They do not have the best interest of the country at heart. THEY ONLY WANT TO REGAIN POWER IN UPCOMING ELECTIONS. Don't help them portrait the administration as either incompetent or worse callous to national security interest.
25 posted on 02/23/2006 4:52:28 AM PST by aligncare (Watergate killed journalism)
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Welcoming Terror to U.S. Ports
By Rachel Ehrenfeld and Paul E. Vallely
FrontPageMagazine.com | February 23, 2006

President George W. Bush justifies the sale of the private British company that manages six U.S. ports to the government owned Dubai Ports World, saying that the United Arab Emirates (UAE) is a close ally of the U.S. in the war on terror. Indeed, the Jebel Ali terminal in Dubai transports at least 40% of US supplies to the troops in Iraq. Having the deepest port in the Persian Gulf, Dubai is critical for U.S. naval operations in the region. The UAE also provides air bases to support U.S. warplanes and stores materiel for U.S. forces. Moreover, it is also a major market for U.S. arms.


Not surprisingly, the President threatens to veto any legislation to block the deal and challenges lawmakers to “step up and explain why a Middle Eastern company is held to a different standard" than the British company that ran the ports before.



There are many important differences. To begin with, a private company based in the U.K. a Western democracy with troops fighting along with U.S. soldiers in Iraq, contrasts sharply with the UAE, which supported al-Qaeda, sent 9/11 terrorists and funding, and continues to support Palestinian suicide bombers and particularly HAMAS, which President Bush calls “a terrorist organization.”



On July 27, 2005, the Palestinian Information Center carried a public HAMAS statement thanking the UAE for it’s “unstinting support.” The statement said: “We highly appreciate his highness Sheikh Khalifa Bin Zayed Bin Sultan Al-Nahyan (UAE president) in particular and the UAE people and government in general for their limitless support…that contributed more to consolidating our people's resoluteness in the face of the Israeli occupation".



The HAMAS statement continued: "the sisterly UAE had… never hesitated in providing aid for our Mujahid people pertaining to rebuilding their houses demolished by the IOF… The UAE also spared no effort to offer financial and material aids to the Palestinian charitable societies." Indeed, as documented by the Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center at the Center for Special Studies (C.S.S), HAMAS charitable societies,” are known as integral parts of the HAMAS infrastructure, and are outlawed by Israel and the U.S.



The HAMAS statement included a special tribute: "One can never forget the generous donations of the late Sheikh Zayed Bin Sultan,” the father of the current UAE president. Sheikh Zayed bin Sultan al Nahayan of Abu Dhabi, was the first Arab leader to understand the importance of waging economic Jihad against the West, and was the first to use oil as a political weapon following the Yom Kippur War in 1973. On the eve of the 1991 Gulf War he branded the United States “our number two enemy” after Israel.



The multi-billionaire Sheikh Zayed, was an early patron of the PLO, and from the 1970’s until his death in 2004, contributed millions of dollars to the terror agenda of the PLO, HAMAS and Islamic Jihad.



Human Appeal International, a UAE government-operated “charitable” organization, whose board includes the UAE president, funds HAMAS as well as other Palestinian organizations, “martyrs,” Palestinian terrorists in Israeli prisons and their families. The HAI’s modus operandi is to transfer money to the Palestinian Red Crescent Organization whose West Bank and Gaza branches are operated by HAMAS. They, in turn, distribute the money to HAMAS “charities.”



For example, according to the Orient Research Center in Toronto, Canada, the UAE “compensation” plan for the Palestinian intifada in 2001 included $3,000 for every Palestinian shaheed, $2,000 for his family, $1,500 for those detained by Israel, $1,200 for each orphan. In addition, families of those terrorists whose homes Israel demolished each received $10,000.



Also in 2001, in support of the martyr’s families in the Palestinian intifada, two telethons were organized in the UAE. “We Are All Palestinians” raised 135 million dirham, or $36.8 million, and “For Your Sake Palestine” raised 350 million dirham, or $95.3 million.



According to a detailed report on March 25, 2005, in the Palestinian daily Al Hayat al-Jadeeda, the UAE Friends Society transferred $475,000, through the UAE Red Crescent, to West Bank “charitable” organizations in Hebron, Jenin, Nablus and Tulkarem to distribute to the families of “martyrs,” orphans, imprisoned Palestinians and others.



The Palestinian newspaper Al-Ayyam reported on March 22, 2005, that in 2004 the UAE Red Crescent donated $2 million to HAMAS “charities” to be distributed to 3,158 terrorists’ orphans.



On February 15, 2005, the HAMAS website reported on funds transferred from HAI to two HAMAS front organizations in the West Bank, IQRA and Rifdah, which Israel had outlawed. And last July, Osama Zaki Muhammad Bashiti of Khan Younis in Gaza was arrested as he returned from the UAE, for often transferring funds of as much as $200,000 at a time to the Gaza HAMAS branch. The suicide bombing and attacks, including one mortar attack on Gush Katif, caused the death of 44 Israeli civilians and dozens of injuries.



The UAE support of HAMAS is in line with the agenda promoted by the late Sheikh Zayed. His Zayed Center for International Coordination and Followup, founded in 1999 as the official Arab League think-tank, was shuttered under international pressure in 2003. It championed Holocaust deniers like Thierry Meyssan and Roger Garaudy and provided a platform for anti-Western, anti-Christian and anti-Jewish extremists like Saudi economist Dr. Yussuf Abdallah Al Zamel, who blamed the war in Iraq on "radical Zionist and right-wing Christian" influence.



Although UAE foreign Minister Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed al-Nahayan stated that the Emirates have been and remain a “strong ally of the U.S. in combating terrorism,” its continuing support of HAMAS and other Islamist organizations contradict his statement. This legitimately raises concerns about trusting U.S. ports to UAE management.


27 posted on 02/23/2006 5:01:27 AM PST by conservativecorner
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Bush’s Port Jihad
By Robert Spencer
FrontPageMagazine.com | February 23, 2006

It’s shaping up to be a major political battle: Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, House Speaker Dennis Hastert and House Majority Leader John Boehner have all lined up against President Bush’s plan to turn over operation of six major American ports to a company based in the United Arab Emirates.


The President is threatening to veto any attempt to block the plan. Referring to the fact that the company in question, the Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Company, has been British-owned up to its impending sale to Dubai Ports World, he said Tuesday: “I want those who are questioning it to step up and explain why all of a sudden a Middle Eastern company is held to a different standard than a Great British company. I am trying to conduct foreign policy now by saying to the people of the world, ‘We’ll treat you fairly.’”

This is staggeringly unrealistic, and reflects the dangers of the Administration’s continuing unwillingness or inability to come to grips with the full dimensions of the jihad threat. That Bush feels compelled to say “to the people of the world, ‘We’ll treat you fairly’” betrays a peculiar insecurity where he should display a robust and unapologetic self-confidence. He is trying to demonstrate to a world awash in anti-Americanism that America is not as bad as all that, but in doing so he only lends credence to the anti-American charges (for if there weren’t substance to them, after all, why would he feel the need for the gesture?) and manifests the mistaken belief that “they hate us” because of something we have done, which we can undo with the proper display of good will. In this he again shows complete unawareness of the jihad ideology which remains constant while the pretexts and grievances that fuel it shift. No amount of good will can possibly efface the jihad imperative to subjugate the world under the rule of Islamic law, which is the avowed program of jihadists everywhere.



The UAE may be the most reliable ally the United States has ever had (and of course it isn’t remotely that) and there would still be no way for it to ensure that Dubai Ports World hires no one with jihadist sentiments. The situation in the Islamic world makes it quite likely that Dubai Ports World will be sending at least a few mujahedin to work in these American ports, and that they will be able to work there unhindered. The 9/11 hijackers used the UAE as a base of operations and source of financial support; have Emirati authorities cleared the country of jihad sentiment since then? On what basis can this be assumed?



After all, no one even in Washington is yet even asking the right questions of self-proclaimed moderates about where they really stand on jihad and Sharia issues. Officials in Washington and Europe have shown no awareness of the fact that it isn’t enough to have no ties to terror groups; a Muslim who nonetheless believes in the jihad ideology of Islamic supremacism and the subjugation of infidels is still susceptible to jihadist recruitment. Is it possible to determine whether such recruitment is likely or not in the case of any particular individual? No -- and that’s why turning over any ports to Dubai Ports World is ill-advised: the potential for jihadist infiltration is just too great. Why is a Middle Eastern company held to a standard different from that to which a British company is held? Obviously a British firm these days could employ a jihadist also, but the likelihood of this is smaller, as British Muslims still constitute a small minority of the population.


Some have argued that this deal has been blown way out of proportion, and that security for the ports will remain in American hands. Even if that is true, however, the arrangement with Dubai Ports World should be ended immediately, if only for its symbolic value. Rather than bend over backward to show the Muslim nations of the world that he trusts them, President Bush would do more for American national security by explaining why such trust would be misplaced at this time, and calling upon those nations to manifest their trustworthiness with forthright and unambiguous anti-jihad actions within their borders -- including an ending of all discrimination against non-Muslims and of the teaching of the idea that the Islamic social order must be imposed by force over Jews, Christians, and others. If the President were calling for the UAE to adopt such measures, he would be under no illusions about where that country really stands.



Frist, Hastert, and Boehner are right. Why would Bush want to be so obstinate on this? Doesn’t he realize that it does immense damage to his position as being tougher on Islamic terrorism than his opponents? On cue, Hillary Clinton has already spoken about introducing legislation to stop the deal. The President risks allowing the Democrats an opportunity to show that they are tougher on terrorism than he is – which, since it isn’t true, if a Democrat is actually elected in 2008, could lead to the destruction of the entire anti-terror resistance, as imperfect as it has been.



If this deal goes through, will the United States have the luxury of undoing it before it undoes us?


32 posted on 02/23/2006 5:04:24 AM PST by conservativecorner
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Many of us were overly concerned when the ports question first came out because it was reported that security was involved. It now seems to be a tempest-in-a-toilet bowl stirred up by Democrats and some Republicans who did not get the story right. In the case of the anti-American Democrats and socialists in Congress and in the media, they have been looking for an issue to jump on.

Democrats running for office desperately need something to yell about that will give the impression that they are moving more to the center and away from the extreme left..

This is all caused by the White House not explaining what is going on. This in turn is a part of the per chant of our ruling elite, Democrat or Republican, to feel that they are above having to explain themselves to the "people out there."

Our ruling elite are, by the average America's standards, the wealthy class. Wealthy people, as a rule, do not feel answerable to lesser folks.

The Bush administration has handed the socialists an issue on a silver platter that they will pursue to the bitter end in an effort to retake power.

the Bush administration is doing many of the right things but it had better begin to take the American people into consideration. After all, Bush is our employee and employees must be supervised.
33 posted on 02/23/2006 5:04:36 AM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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