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Three Planes Cleared For Same LAX Runway Avoid Crash
The Associated Press ^ | February 22, 2006 | AP

Posted on 02/22/2006 12:32:34 PM PST by Westlander

LOS ANGELES -- Federal investigators are trying to figure out why an air traffic controller directed three planes onto the same runway at Los Angeles International Airport last week.

A Federal Aviation Administration spokesman said, "It was pretty close."

(Excerpt) Read more at clickondetroit.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: atc; lax; oops; plane; runway; traffic
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To: evets

Yeah, looks like a bad week to give up sniffing glue!


21 posted on 02/22/2006 12:43:03 PM PST by Obadiah
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To: mass55th

Don't know how the extra vowels got attached to my tagline in my last post, but I'm hoping this post will fix it.


22 posted on 02/22/2006 12:43:05 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: Westlander

I hate the traffic paaterns at LAX. Four, count 'em, (4) essentially parallel runways, planes being switched between them in the late stages of landing, taxiways that must cross runways with landing and departing aricraft. It is a clustf*ck waiting to happen.

To add to the confusion, there are two tower frequencies: one for the north two runways, another for the southern runways. So the plane coming in to land next to your plane is probably talking to a different controller than you!

LAX always gives me the willies. Was not too long ago a controller landed a plane right on top of another on the runway. Grisly.......


23 posted on 02/22/2006 12:43:47 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Westlander

The local controller's got some splainin' to do.


24 posted on 02/22/2006 12:44:00 PM PST by Prince Charles
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To: Westlander

Clearance was mistakenly given when the pilots were transferred to the call queue in Bangalore.

The person who answered there didn't have a firm grasp of English and kept asking the pilots for their e-mail addresses.


25 posted on 02/22/2006 12:45:44 PM PST by relictele
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To: Aeronaut; Paleo Conservative

Yikes. I believe this has happened before at LAX, with a much worse result.

}:-)4


26 posted on 02/22/2006 12:45:58 PM PST by Moose4 ("I will shoulder my musket and brandish my sword/In defense of this land and the word of the Lord")
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To: doorgunner69
I hate the traffic paaterns at LAX. Four, count 'em, (4) essentially parallel runways, planes being switched between them in the late stages of landing, taxiways that must cross runways with landing and departing aricraft. It is a clustf*ck waiting to happen.

Mayor Dummy has plans for 5 or 6 parallel runways at O'Hare; that will be a sight to behold.

27 posted on 02/22/2006 12:46:30 PM PST by Prince Charles
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To: wideawake

Trifecta - against the usual odds!


28 posted on 02/22/2006 12:46:52 PM PST by RicocheT
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To: gridlock

I picked a helluva week to give up sniffing glue.


29 posted on 02/22/2006 12:47:24 PM PST by Illuminatas (Being conservative means never having to say; "Don't you dare question my patriotism")
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To: Prince Charles
The local controller's got some splainin' to do.

He certainly won't need a LAXative

30 posted on 02/22/2006 12:47:30 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo ("When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk!")
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To: Westlander
"American 281 heavy cleared for final on runway 3left"

(controler thinks in head) "well two left now"

31 posted on 02/22/2006 12:47:41 PM PST by DainBramage
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To: Westlander
re: "It was pretty close."

B.S.

From article: "The pilot of the smaller plane saw the incoming Southwest jet and stopped short of the runway. The jet roared past about 275 feet away and 50 feet above the smaller plane.

The FAA spokesman said the Southwest jet landed without incident and never got closer than about 5,600 feet to the Air Canada jet."

Some incorrect ATC procedures, confusion between local (air) and ground controller, but no big problem.

BFD.
32 posted on 02/22/2006 12:47:58 PM PST by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
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To: doorgunner69

Atlanta Hartsfield(-Jackson) is the same way. Four parallel runways with the terminal in the center, I think they take off on the inner ones and land on the outer ones. And they're adding a fifth.

}:-)4


33 posted on 02/22/2006 12:48:05 PM PST by Moose4 ("I will shoulder my musket and brandish my sword/In defense of this land and the word of the Lord")
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To: VRWCmember

...six FReepin' seconds...


34 posted on 02/22/2006 12:49:15 PM PST by gridlock (eliminate perverse incentives)
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To: MindBender26

275 feet away and 50 feet above? Sounds like he was at the hold short point.

Maybe this is why Mom says "look both ways before crossing the runway."

}:-)4


35 posted on 02/22/2006 12:49:19 PM PST by Moose4 ("I will shoulder my musket and brandish my sword/In defense of this land and the word of the Lord")
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To: Westlander

I'm sure many on the left will blame Ronald Reagan for firing the strikers. :)


36 posted on 02/22/2006 12:49:35 PM PST by jazusamo (:Gregory was riled while Hume smiled:)
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To: doorgunner69

What's DTW's report card ?


37 posted on 02/22/2006 12:49:42 PM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Obadiah

I picked a hell of a week to give up barbituates.


38 posted on 02/22/2006 12:49:54 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: RckyRaCoCo

It Depends...


39 posted on 02/22/2006 12:50:16 PM PST by Prince Charles
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To: Westlander
The Air Traffic Control operator was obviously from the United Arab Emirates!!!
40 posted on 02/22/2006 12:50:38 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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