Posted on 02/21/2006 5:38:24 PM PST by kellynla
WMD: The quote above is that of a former UNSCOM member after translating and reviewing 12 hours of taped conversations between Saddam Hussein and his aides. So what's on the covers of Time and Newsweek?
Funny thing about dictators and tyrants: Very often they are meticulous record keepers. The fall of the Third Reich, the Soviet Union and Saddam Hussein's Iraq all produced treasure troves of information. In Iraq's case, there were so many documents and records that even now only a small fraction have been translated and analyzed.
Among them are 12 hours of conversations from the early 1990s through 2000 between Hussein and his top advisers. They reveal, among other things, how Iraq was working on an advanced method of enriching uranium, how Iraq was conspiring to deceive U.N. inspectors regarding weapons of mass destruction and how these weapons might be used against the U.S.
The tapes were officially presented Sunday by former FBI translator Bill Tierney to a private conference of former weapons inspectors and intelligence experts in Arlington, Va. Tierney is an Arabic speaker who worked in the mid-1990s for the United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM), the agency responsible for overseeing Iraq's disarmament.
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A "good news" ping.
Bush was right about the WMD's.
I've BEEN talking about it. Proof or no, with eyes closed and fingers stuck
in their ears, my mentally disturbed liberal friends are chanting "Bush lied".
It's nuts. Like we are two countries living on one soil. Not a good sign. Come,
let us REASON together.
I was just watching the O'Reilly show a bit, and they suggested that the Bush admin is doing its level best to keep Russia and a few other countries on board with the WOT--and that this evidence is going to be extremely damaging to them. I'm not saying I buy this argument entirely--and if it's true, I'm not sure I care if someone gets their nose out of joint--but it's a theory I haven't heard before, and it could be true. We do know that the Russians helped Saddam get some of the WMDs out of Iraq and into Syria, for one thing.
I don't know about that. If THIS story took the place of the Cheney story, would it really turn the tide of public opinion? Only of the dems and their MSM agreed. If Chuckie S and company just said "Nope, nothing here" and MoDo and company dismissed it, I don't see it changing any minds. I mean, what was the opinion of the war yesterday in the minds of the public? I don't see it being overwhelmingly pro.
Do you mean this was one of the few times Bill Clinton was telling the truth?
The media is never going to make a big deal about this. It's up to Bush to spread this news. I can't figure out why he has spen the last 2 1/2 years hiding any news that supported the war.
Call me crazy, but it looks like the biggest rope-a-dope ever is coming. Could it be just in time for the mid terms? I think the Arab harbor deal might be related in some crazy way. Just a hunch.
Too worried about Cheny/Gitmo/Katrina/Rove-Gate instead, I guess
It was, and unfortunately it is... and not just from the MSM
http://www.nationalreview.com/script/printpage.p?ref=/york/york200602200720.asp
So he was, but they're probably in Syria right now. And the security of ports and borders are important, yet he persists in leaving the borders practically open to illegal crossing, and now strongly affirms a bad decision to let an Al Qaeda-friendly state run a good number of the ports.
This has to be nailed down completely before anyone who is currently on record as believing the "Bush lied" mantra will even consider it. It isn't yet - it's still deniable as the story mentions, as the fantasies of a sycophant stroking Saddam. Even tied up with bows it will be difficult for its skeptics to swallow - recall how long it took anyone faced with the slamdunk of the Maples/Rather forgeries to even admit that perhaps there were problems. There are still some - the principals among them - in denial. I think at this point there is only evidence and there will likely never be proof - not the sort that those with a vested interest in disbelief will be forced to admit to, at least.
"THIS is what we should be talking about instead of Cheney and ports..."
Just listen to the radio for a few moments and you can hear what the big story is. Listen to a few callers and you will hear that this port move is (in their minds) a step back in the war on terror.
JEDI.
Why?
Because the "just know". They trust their gut. And they don't trust Bush because...well, I don't know, they just get "bad vibes" or somesuch stupidass thing.
Politics is the emotional part of governance, seems to me, and that's not going to change because when you don't LIKE the other person--as opposed to disagreeing with their position--you don't trust that when presented with the truth they will abandon their "gut" and admit, yes, you've proven your point and now I change my position.
Look at the debate HERE, for Pete's sake (I'm no angel on this score, either). People don't exchange facts--they exchange "witty" insults. Because if you're proven wrong it's seen as a disgrace, a slight.
It's refreshing to me when I talk to someone about politics and one of us provides facts that make the other go "Hmm, I didn't know that. You're right." When you're tlaking one-on-one with someone you like as a whole person, you know their intentions are good and don't care about intellectual arguments, because they're only that, discussions in which you're both looking for the truth.
Here, on the net, in the media, "Gotcha!" is all, high-fiving and "Yes!" exlcamations. Dana Milbank appears on Olberman, and people watch and think "Well this is the way they do it on TV, so it's how it's done!" No wonder we can't discuss matters of fact when appearance and getting in your face when you "lose" is the norm in society now.
What has happened with Drudge?
Yup. Here in Boston the "libertarian" Jay Severin is pushing so much disinformation it's embarassing. I can hardly listen to him at all, and after that I had to change the channel, I was CRINGING at his ignorance.
rope a dope a comin'...
I'm with you. I also think the Cheney circus was designed to draw interest away from this port issue. Bring it on.
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