Posted on 02/21/2006 8:09:38 AM PST by najida
Posted: 21-02-2006 , 15:42 GMT
The Iranian delegation which arrived in Moscow to discuss Iran's nuclear program has reportedly left without having achieving many concrete results. However, the two sides did agree on the principles of a "common formula" for the Russian plan to allow Iran to enrich uranium on its soil.
The proposal, set forth by Moscow, would ensure greater oversight of Iran's controversial nuclear program in an effort to ease international tension surrounding it.
"The negotiations were positive and constructive -- we talked about the principles of a common formula and reached an agreement on those principles," head of the Iranian delegation Ali Hosseini-Tash said, according to the AFP.
The sides also agreed that "referring Iran's dossier to the (UN) Security Council would ruin the peaceful path of finding a solution," added Hosseini-Tash.
Western governments, fearful that Iran is working to produce a nuclear weapon, will likely support sanctions against Iran if the conflict is not resolved through negotiations.
Reports that the talks were less then fruitful were also countered by Russian Foreign Minister, Sergei Lavrov, who stated, "I would be cautious about using the terms 'collapse' or 'failure' until the talks are over," reported Reuters, quoting Itar-Tass.
A senior Iranian added that future negotiations would continue in Tehran, as the head of Russia's atomic energy agency, Sergei Kiriyenko, is set to arrive in Iran later this week.
"Another round of the (Iran-Russia) talks will take place in Tehran in the coming days," said the Iranian official.
Euphemism for:
Iran said we will build a bomb, Russia does not want to escalate this for Iran is a major trading partner.
End State: "All is fine, we have PEACE IN OUR TIME" All while Iran continues to build away.
As with Iraq, there comes a time where it becomes blatantly obvious that there is no true deal to make. the parties involved are to far separated and there is no possibility to get into a zone of probably compromise. Iran wants a nuke-PERIOD. That is their basic drive. All the rest is fuzzy BS. Rhetoric, exercises in polemics that have no substance. We are at a juncture here. By doing nothing we allow Iran to de facto become a nuclear power. A compromise will not be reached. Three years of negotiations have led to nothing. The Russians will achieve nothing, but will claim “a small little thing was achieved” so lets wait a bit longer.
If we want a nuclear Iran we need to keep the course.
It means that Russia is not going to stand in the way of Iran getting nuclear weapons.
Russia tried to give Iran an "out" but they didn't want one.
Russia knows full well Iran wants a nuclear weapon, and in the end will not object when the US bombs Iran. It's going to happen.
Russia is selling Iran the SA15. Delivery began Dec 05.
Russia is selling Syria the SA18. Delivery began 2004.
I think Russia will play it's stalling game within the UNSC. While the former Soviet threat (In it immense size) is gone, while we have some mutual enemies, and even a few mutual economic interests, Russia is essentially still the state it was before the wall came down. It's still a centralized state with little transparency (except in arms control where we both inspect each other). The old party heads are today CEO's of the firms, a KGB agent is the “so called” president. You do not have a free press etc.
Since many of the same old leaders are in power and some of Russia’s interests collide with ours, they to this day work against us where they can. Any weakness on our part is viewed as advantageous to them. They still see us as a threat and themselves in opposition to us. They still reminisce about the “good ole days” of when they were an empire.
Do I see Russia as the threat it once was? No. The Warsaw Pact is dissolved. Republic of Georgia, Ukraine, Lithonia, Uzbekistan, Khuzestan……are separate republics. They simply don’t have the might/mass they once had.
Do we work together at times? Yes. Some of the radical Islamist elements we are fighting are the same guys they are fighting. The same “groups” in a larger picture involved with Beslan are the ones we are eradicating in S. Afghanistan. In fact, Chechens have been caught in Iraq. So there is “some” cooperation in certain instances.
However, Russia is also “no friend”. Like the Chinese, and the French, Russia tries to position itself as the champion of the “Tin Pot” dictator. Selling arms and exploiting trade barriers they try to pick up all the crumbs and do business with those no one else wants to. So you see MIG29C in the N. Korean Air Force. Russian troops helping Iraq move its WMD before the war. In fact Russia was one of Iraq’s major trading partners. Guess who’s Iran’s major trading buddy and equips them with arms? Russia is another “Bottom Feeder” and actively works against us, as they did in Iraq.
I would be surprised if they volunteered their support for action against Iran.
Talk is cheap! We were told that The Euro-Iran talks were making progress too.
I know and I agree.
In the end, when push comes to shove, the EU nations are politically crippled by their impotence to make a decision that involves direct military action. Even those Coalition states in Iraq will wimp out on any further actions.
Russia and China have vested interests in doing nothing in respect to Iran.
So, while some are blowing the horn loud, in the end they will sit there and do just that- Blow the horn loud. Iran is betting on it!
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