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Jimmy Carter's Son: "I'm pro-choice as far as a woman choosing, but I'm against abortion"
LifeSiteNews ^ | 21 February 2006 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 02/20/2006 4:02:32 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

LAS VEGAS, February 20, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Jack Carter, 58, the eldest son of former U.S. President Jimmy Carter has announced he is seeking the Democratic nomination for U.S. Senate to represent Nevada. At his launch, Carter spoke with reporters revealing his schizophrenic stand on abortion - a stand similar to that of his father.

Speaking with the Associated Press' Kathleen Hennessey, Carter described his abortion views saying, ""I'm a personal freedoms person. I don't want the government to come in and tell my child or whoever it is that they can't have an abortion. I'm pro-choice as far as a woman choosing, but I'm against abortion."

Stephen F. Hayward, PhD., wrote a 2004 book on Jimmy Carter noting the former President's political exploitation of abortion. In an interview with National Review, Hayward recalled Carter's abortion stand: "The 1976 campaign was the first national election after the Roe decision, and the politics of the issue were still sorting themselves out. Remember that Gerald Ford was pro-abortion, while many Democrats, including Sargent Shriver, one of Carter's rivals, were pro-life. In the Iowa caucuses, which Carter put on the map for the first time, Carter told Catholic audiences (and a gathering of bishops) that he opposed abortion and supported legislation to restrict it, thus cutting into Shriver's support. But he told feminist groups at the same time that he supported abortion rights (indeed, he had done so as governor of Georgia)."

The AP report reveals Jack Carter is Baptist and has, together with his wife Elizabeth, four children from previous marriages.

In 2000, LifeSiteNews.com reported that President Carter left the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC). Carter said at the time that the SBC had adopted policies "that violate the basic premises of my Christian faith," including a denominational statement that prohibits women from being pastors and tells wives to be submissive to their husbands.

However, Morris H. Chapman, chairman of the SBC Executive Committee, noted that Carter, who was originally embraced by Baptist conservatives in 1976 when he publicly described himself as a born-again Christian, lost favour with conservative Christians after such actions as appointing Sarah Weddington - the lead attorney in the landmark 1973 abortion case, Roe v. Wade - to the White House position when he was assistant to the president.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: 2006; abortion; allovertheshop; babykiller; babykillers; babykilling; braindeadjack; dopeydem; jackcarter; jimmah; jimmahjnr; nevada; roevwade; senate; wewontgetfooledagain
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To: Aussie Dasher

It has been said "You are what you eat".

As in all struggling start up enterprizes, the starving but determined Carter clan subsisted mostly by eating the culls of the family business, for a long, long time.

Family business peanuts-family members, nuts.

Tsk! Tsk!


161 posted on 02/21/2006 7:46:21 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Let's make government a liberal free zone.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Straddle too wide and all you get for your trouble is a punch in the cojones


162 posted on 02/21/2006 7:54:28 AM PST by NRA1995 (If feminists are so smart, why do they need masturbation workshops?)
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To: F.J. Mitchell

163 posted on 02/21/2006 8:44:09 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: hiredhand

It's actually very logical. You are just too biased to see it.

You can be for the gov't getting out of our lives although you can be against the thing you are asking the gov't to get out of.

Wouldn't religion fit that bill? I don't want the gov't mandating us all be Christians but I am a Christian. I'm for something I want the gov't out of.

I differ with Carter on one thing. I believe that the STATES have the personal freedom to decide whether or not abortion should be legal although I personally am very much against abortion.

That doesn't make me a hypocrit. I don't think the gov't should be legislating morality.

Unless of course you want to be killed the next time you sleep with your neighbor's wife.


164 posted on 02/21/2006 9:13:13 AM PST by Almondjoy
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To: TheMom

I agree with you, too.

I'm not sure why people find it so hard to believe that one can be opposed to abortion, but for a person's right to make their own choice, not someone else's. After all, it will be them standing in front of the throne on judgement day explaining this action, not me!


165 posted on 02/21/2006 9:33:39 AM PST by beachn4fun (“Americans never quit.” ~ General Douglas Macarthur (1880 - 1964))
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To: TheMom
One could aptly apply slavery and abortion when it comes to the US courts.

In the span of human history it was not long ago that US courts stripped all rights of slaves saying they were not human beings or using legal psychobabble to justify their ignorance, citizens, just property.

Of course biology has a different opinion in both black slaves and an unborn child.
166 posted on 02/21/2006 9:46:58 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Darkwolf377

Does Fat Ted even bother to say he's "personally opposed" to abortion?


167 posted on 02/21/2006 9:49:57 AM PST by utahagen
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To: Almondjoy
Did I "strike a nerve" with you somehow possibly?

I didn't SAY you were a hypocrite.

The NEXT time I sleep with my neigbor's wife? That was a most rude and unfortunate comment about my neighbor's wife. From what you write it only stands to reason you've assumed that I've already had sex with her at least once.

...and for that you can appologize.


168 posted on 02/21/2006 9:56:52 AM PST by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: utahagen

Yeah he still does pull out that line. Of course, like Jimmy, he, too, tried to play both ends against the middle. Someone unearthed a letter he sent to contributors in the first election after Roe in which he said he was strongly opposed to abortion. And lookee here, there was another letter in which--you guessed it--he said he was strongly for "a woman's right to choose"---in the same election cycle, sent to other contributors.


169 posted on 02/21/2006 9:59:30 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Censorship sucks)
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To: Darkwolf377

It's kind of like the people who said that they would never personally own a slave but refused to deny slaveowners their right to choose to own slaves.


170 posted on 02/21/2006 10:01:47 AM PST by blitzgig
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To: Aussie Dasher
""I'm a personal freedoms person. I don't want the government to come in and tell my child or whoever it is that they can't have an abortion. I'm pro-choice as far as a woman choosing, but I'm against abortion."

I absolutely DESPISE people who say that, omg! Make up your flippin mind, get off the fence, sh*t or get off the freakin pot!

171 posted on 02/21/2006 10:07:58 AM PST by Desert_Girl (A scar is what happens when the world is made flesh)
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To: Aussie Dasher

I don't know why this position is so hard to understand.

He is against men having abortions.

I'm thinking he pretty much has this position all tied up for himself.


172 posted on 02/21/2006 10:11:03 AM PST by cowtowney
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To: blitzgig
We think alike--see post #10.

I find it interesting how gays compare themselves to blacks during the civil rights movement, and that completely ridiculous comparison is let stand. Meanwhile, just as slaves were not considered fully human, unborn children...well, you know where I'm going with that. And the fact that you can complete that sentence yourself proves how apt the comparison is.

173 posted on 02/21/2006 10:11:43 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Censorship sucks. Abortion sucks. Islamofascism sucks. To be continued.)
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To: Darkwolf377

"And the fact that you can complete that sentence yourself proves how apt the comparison is."

And the fact that you brought it up in post #10 shows your clear thinking. Kudos to you. :)


174 posted on 02/21/2006 10:16:11 AM PST by blitzgig
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To: hiredhand

I wasn't accusing you of that.. don't take me so literally. I simply made a point about morality of which you didn't understand.

I apologize that you took it personally. I don't know you or your neighbor's wife so I couldn't possibly know if you were sleeping with her.


175 posted on 02/21/2006 11:53:56 AM PST by Almondjoy
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To: Almondjoy
That's an interesting apology....So you're sorry that I took it personally? That's what you're sorry for? You're sorry that I took it personally that you said a really ugly thing out of ignorance? Well...O.K. I guess. :-)

You don't mind if I apologize on your behalf to my neighbor's wife do you? I'm not offended. You'd have to try a lot harder to tarnish my beat up reputation. Besides, I can defend myself here, which is something that my neighbor's wife can't do. In a small, but significant way, you've slandered her good name and denied her justice. She's quite a good lady by the way.

I do have the IP address of your workstation though, and if she wants to pursue this, I suppose she can go through channels and subpoena your ISP for your identity. I'm fairly familiar with the processes involved for getting an ISP to release information. It's not that difficult.

You're a confusing man to me. You are certain that you couldn't possibly know if I've slept with my neighbor's wife, but you're also certain that I don't understand your point about morality.

Maybe I understand your point about morality completely and you just don't realize it because you lack insight and understanding yourself. Think about it... If you lacked understanding, would you know it? It's sort of like the old question as to whether crazy people really know that they're crazy. I think they might be aware that something is "amiss", but that's about the extent of their awareness of their insanity. They only know that things are "wrong".

I didn't say that I hadn't slept my neighbor's wife. I only stated that you made a rude and unfortunate comment....and it was. But I was merely illustrating that just like the rest of us, you really don't know much. Your reply to my request for an apology proved it.

As for the understanding of morality, be careful of your comments regarding the wives of other men. You might feel better by telling me not to take you literally, but your arrogance has the capacity of causing you a lot of grief.

Morality is easy to understand in simple terms of right and wrong, but not many truly comprehend and apply it. Even less do so for the correct reasons, and fewer yet gain an understanding of mercy through it.

Now do you think you can find it within you to issue a proper apology?
176 posted on 02/21/2006 12:55:19 PM PST by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

LOL!


177 posted on 02/21/2006 2:39:34 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Let's make government a liberal free zone.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

"Carter told Catholic audiences (and a gathering of bishops) that he opposed abortion and supported legislation to restrict it, thus cutting into Shriver's support. But he told feminist groups at the same time that he supported abortion rights (indeed, he had done so as governor of Georgia)."


Carter was being Clintonesque even before Clinton was!


178 posted on 02/21/2006 3:15:06 PM PST by WOSG
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To: TheMom

Complete the parallel sentence:

"I do not believe in adults having sex with children, but ..."

would you finish it with "I firmly believe in the right to have a choice." ?

What moral line-drawing puts killing pre-born humans in the 'choice' camp where statutory rape would not be?


179 posted on 02/21/2006 3:18:10 PM PST by WOSG
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To: TheMom

"Abortion is something I do not believe in"

This sentence is non-meaningful in my view. Usually, "do not believe in" is used to decribed agreement to facts or beliefs; your sentence could be taken at face value to mena that abortion is fictional. It is not. It kills over a million preborn humans.

of course, you dont mean it that way. You mean it to say that abortion is something you dont personally want to do.
I have never considered *either* tattoos *or* shoplifting,
and find them both bad habits.. so are we to consider both of those morally equivalent? Of course not. Saying you wont consider some particular action says almost *nothing* about the actual moral choice at hand involved in either case.
tattoos - that's a choice matter; shoplifting - that's a moral issue. It could be a matter of zero moral import or of great moral import and the vacuous statement about 'not believing in it' tells us nothing of the gravity of the issue. Which is abortion more like - tattoos or shoplifting?

It hides the question we face as a society on abortion, which is: "Is the more than one million pre-born humans killed each year in America through abortion a tolerable condition or an abbhorent one that must be changed?"

If you can answer *that* question, we might be getting somewhere.


180 posted on 02/21/2006 3:29:09 PM PST by WOSG
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