Posted on 02/20/2006 12:01:38 AM PST by minus_273
ST. LOUIS - The first humans to spread across North America may have been seal hunters from France and Spain.
This runs counter to the long-held belief that the first human entry into the Americas was a crossing of a land-ice bridge that spanned the Bering Strait about 13,500 years ago.
The new thinking was outlined here Sunday at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science.
Recent studies have suggested that the glaciers that helped form the bridge connecting Siberia and Alaska began receding around 17,000 to 13,000 years ago, leaving very little chance that people walked from one continent to the other.
Also, when archaeologist Dennis Stanford of the Smithsonian Institution places American spearheads, called Clovis points, side-by-side with Siberian points, he sees a divergence of many characteristics.
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People of a scientific turn of mind don't use one ambiguous artifact to construct an entire theory of the origins of a people.
I can easily show you modern people who are very much Caucasian and have very similar features to "that statue" - most of which are from New Hampshire, Maine, and Newfoundland.
I don't think you actually can do this. That's an Indian face. Browse a while through this collection of Edward Curtis's photos of Native Americans and open your own mind. Link.
Why is it then there are sub tribal groups of Berber peoples in southern Morocco that look exactly like Lakota Sioux?
mtDNA isn't nuclear DNA, and doesn't tell much of anything (other than possibly suggesting arrival by sea, or arrival of different waves, or much greater antiquity of humans in the Americas, or colonization from east to west, rather than west to east), simply because it is amplified as it is passed to all offspring.
In the Discovery Channel show Ice Age Columbus, researchers in Canada found that 25% of the Indians there had some European blood, which solidifies the European theory.
There has been continuous European contact with the Indians of Eastern Canada (Ontario, Quebec, and the Maritimes) for at least 400 years. (The same holds true for the Indians of the U.S. Eastern Seaboard.) Moreover, the contact has primarily been with Western Europeans, mostly French and British. The modern day French and British have some genetic similarities with the Ice Age inhabitants of Western Europe, a few of whom are supposed to have arrived in eastern North America. How can Western European genes from 10,000 years ago be distinguished from those of modern times?
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The show "Ice Age Columbus" explained that much better than I can. It is very interesting to see that we are all related in one way or another.
I was going by your map in post #58, not physical features.
"THE MYSTERY OF THE LOST RED PAINT PEOPLE follows U.S., Canadian, and European scientists from the barrens of Labrador - where archaeologists uncover an ancient stone burial mound - to sites in the U.S., France, England, and Denmark, and to the vast fjords of northernmost Norway where monumental standing stones testify to links among seafaring cultures across immense distances. "
I saw a show on tv where a Japanese gal had her DNA identified and it came out 30% caucasion. Have you heard that the early Japanese settlers were Siberian and of European descent? I have always wondered this and wanted to verify it.
If you go by "looks" that's in the eye of the beholder.
But the genes don't lie.
Sorry, that theory is an old one which has been shot down by recent scientific studies.
The X gene found in a few Western Native American tribes is X2, which is Asian in origin, in particular, the Altaic region of Siberia.
The X gene found in Europeans is X1.
Both X1 and X2 are derived from people who originated in the region of Northern Iran.
The X1 went west, the X2 went east.
The genes don't lie.
This is what the Altay look like, which is exactly like Native Americans:
Sorry to disagree with you, but thousands of genetic researchers, especially genetic archaeologists and genetic anthropologists, disagree with you.
If you have evidence in favor of your theory, perhaps you can enlighten the rest of us with it.
Go by the genes. It's not at all difficult to google the tests and results. It may well be the most important advance in understanding human history since the birth of writing.
I haven't spent any time at all researching Japanese DNA, but there's a ton of research on this that I've noticed in passing.
Genes lie all the time, and have been doing so for about 800 million years.
No. Women have a tendency to lie to men and tell them that they're the father of the brat, not the next door neighbor and not the postman.
But genetic testing of paternity is 99.9% accurate.
(For that matter, men have a tendency to lie to women and tell them that it's just a weird coincidence that the child of their sister or best friend looks just like the man who's swearing he would never, never, ever do such a thing.)
Nope, people lie, but genes don't.
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