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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 19 February 2006
Various big media television networks ^ | 19 February 2006 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 02/19/2006 5:03:51 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

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To: Cboldt
Me, "pick a fight"? Only in your dreams, my dear. :-)

Ahhhhhhhhhh, but you shall never ensnare me in your web. I shall never fall into your clutches. *bats eyelashes*

It was an interesting read; that's why I BTTTed it. Thanks for posting it.

1,001 posted on 02/20/2006 1:25:55 AM PST by nopardons
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To: beyond the sea

LOL


1,002 posted on 02/20/2006 1:26:22 AM PST by nopardons
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To: beyond the sea
Sorry....NOPARDONS for bleeding hearts. The enemy IS the enemy and we must never give way to emotional outbursts. :-)
1,003 posted on 02/20/2006 1:28:15 AM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Me, "pick a fight"? Only in your dreams, my dear.

Nay, it would not be you picking a fight, it would be ME doing the picking, but blaming you for the imbroligo. It's the nature of flame war to unreasonably blame the opposition.

Ahhhhhhhhhh, but you shall never ensnare me in your web.

Not again you say? Bwahahahahahaha!

It was an interesting read; that's why I BTTTed it. Thanks for posting it.

My pleasure, and thank you for the "bump" and compliment.










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1,004 posted on 02/20/2006 1:43:46 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
I shan't ever react, to a post of yours, as you wish me to. It's far more fun, for me, to see you whinge and whine and do your dance, whilst I withhold my favors.

You're most welcome and as you know, I am not one to hand out compliments lightly, or often. Those who deserve 'em, gets 'em. :-)

However did you do the kitty? It's really quite delightful.

1,005 posted on 02/20/2006 1:49:49 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Mo1

Ha. I finally got to see it and it was great. Not only did I love the jihad comment but after gregory made an indignant response to her using that word, she said he'd probably been waiting to say that all morning! Ha!!
And Modo...dang!! What she "had learned" , as russert asked, should have been to never go up against Mary Matalin on tv again. HAHAHAHAHA!!
As Mary said, it was "delicious".


1,006 posted on 02/20/2006 6:13:54 AM PST by jackv (just shakin' my head)
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To: beyond the sea

and one of the few not afraid to say what is on his mind..


1,007 posted on 02/20/2006 8:41:35 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn; nopardons; Howlin
and one of the few not afraid to say what is on his mind..

YES ................ and when all the "exit polls" from the 2004 election against Kerry looked so terrible for most of us............... Ken Mehlman was interviewed on FoxNews at around 6:00 p.m. that evening, and spoke of things that WERE TRUE then. He had the numbers.

He explained quite methodically to Republicans not to be worried about some of these fake numbers of the exit polls. He said it so well and wisely............ I (nearly) KNEW that he was correct.

Well, guess what.......... he WAS!!!!

Ken Mehlman is a great man!!!!

I love his dedication!

1,008 posted on 02/20/2006 10:46:07 AM PST by beyond the sea (Alan Simpson: "All you get is controversy, crap, and confusion from the media.")
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To: Cboldt
It'll be more fun for me to watch proliferation of threads on the subject, and resulting flame wars on the Dubai project.

There's an old joke:

Two drunks are sitting at a bar on the top floor of a fancy old hotel in the middle of a big city.  One is explaining to the other that the shape of the buildings surrounding the hotel funnel the wind up the sides in such a way that there's enough wind to keep someone airborne who simply opens one of the nearby windows and steps out.  The second drunk says he doesn't believe it and challenges the first drunk to prove it.  So drunk #1 steps over, opens the window and steps out, many floors above the street, and simply floats there.

Drunk #2 is amazed as the guy steps back in and sits down, declaring that he has to try that.  He steps over to the still open window, steps out and promptly falls to the street many floors below.

The bartender looks at the guy still sitting at the bar and says "you're a mean drunk, Superman"

1,009 posted on 02/20/2006 2:35:26 PM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Alas Babylon!; AliVeritas; animal172; anita; Bahbah; Bean Counter; ...
This is my totally amateur attempt at filling in for the Top Ten list.  Be gentle <g>

The honorable mentions list. 

These posters made significant contributions, IMHO, to the quality of this thread.  It may always look this way to the person trying to sort through these posts and pick out the top ones, but I really think this was one of the best threads we've had.

A little formatting info.  I've set it up so that the links to the cited posts should be live, so you can click and go directly to what I extracted from.  Where I've extracted I have used ellipses (...) to indicate that there is more of the post in that direction.  I've also used them to stitch together separate paragraphs and avoid line breaks.  Things in parenthesis that start with PH: are my comments.

I'm trying something a little different with this list.  I'm going to group the posters by the type of posts they mostly are contributing.  If you don't like it, just ignore.  I don't think it will hurt much.  Other that this attempt at grouping the posts are in alphabetical order by poster name

Posts Providing Background Facts

Cboldt, post #568; #581 ; #603; #701; #731; #752; #988 (PH: selections from a series of very informative posts, with links, on the port controversy)

Posts Reacting Directly to Shows

animal172, post #55 "Ouch! Wallace just nailed Bayh on the Patriot Act...";

Bahbah, post #60 "...(Russert's) not just evil, he's dumb."; #76 "...Proving for all time that (Lindsey Graham) is a complete and utter fool.";

Bean Counter,  post #290 "Best MTP I've seen in ages! A few thoughts..." (PH: good catches of Mary Matalin quotes, plus a spot on shot at MoDo)

beyond the sea, post #362 "..I see now why you may think Dick Mannequin Gregory would say that..." (PH: and the man from NBC now has a new middle name... and I bet it will stick);

Carolinamom, post #455 "Will Rogers said....." (PH: great quotes and a great reminder of a truly funny and wise man);

Clara Lou, post #313 "...I still think the press, including David Gregory especially, are a bunch prissy, knicker-in-a-twist bunch of unprofessional, whining babies. As an aside, Chrissy Matthews and his silly crowd of prissy liberals are worked into an indignant snit over the power Dick Cheney has been given by the President. Delightful!! I appreciate the entertainment."

Darth Republican, post #219 "...Who's wearing the shorter skirt today?..." (PH: very funny); #350 "I don't think Muhammad Ali in his prime ever scored two KO's against two opponents in the same ring at the same time as Mary did this morning."'

dmw, post #317 "I just loved the look on MoDo's face after getting slapped silly from Mary. She just looked like, "what just hit me?" She also looked like she wanted to hide under Tim's desk after being embarrassed on national TV. Mary for President!!!";

Irish Eyes, #746 "Would love to see Alan Simpson as Press Secretary.";

maggief, post #86 "...Let me get this straight. Is Graham saying that if Congress had more information they would leak less?";

Miss Marple, post #57 "...Wallace immediately picks up on the implication that Bush is 'tough and dumb.' Asks Graham about it, and he does a commendable defense of the President."; #66 "Bayh is VERY sneaky. He talks moderate, but..."; #87 "Always remember that even if Bayh were the moderate he pretends to be, the talent pool he would have to draw from in order to appoint cabinets officials is a scary one, indeed!"; #97  "...People think (Bayh is) a Zell Miller, and he's not..."; #132 "I just love Simpson. I think Fox should give him and Zell Miller a show. We could have a contest on who used the most colorful turn of phrase each week! LOL!" (PH: I second this proposal); #276 "Wallace admitted on someone's show last week (Maybe Fox and Friends) that he has never gone hunting, and as far as he is concerned the outdoors should stay outside where it belongs. He pretty good-naturedly admitted he was a city boy and didn't know much about guns or hunting. I actually like it that he didn't try to pose as someone who knew anything about it."' #300 "That would go with my theory I put forth yesterday: the bean counters are trying to staunch the flow of red ink which the Olympics are causing (they had to make ad money to advertisers due to low ratings). Any reporter-dweeb who calls attention to himself by acting like a jerk and alienating viewers is going to come under the microscope of the higher-ups."

Mo1, post #67 "...Lindsey Graham says that he trusts Congress to keep secrets..."; #85 "...(Bayh's) a better BS'er then Edwards."; #95 "...(Bayh) and other Dems are trying to sound republican..."; #310 "...Now Chrissy is showing news clips about Adlai Stevenson (sp?) and how he shot a family friend during a hunting trip" (PH: great catch, did not know about that); #360 "Chrissy with his end of show comments is now claiming the witness (Ms. Armstrong) on Sunday morning about the hunting accident lied to the reporters... Because she said that no one saw Harry in the brush when the shooting occured .. and because the VP admitting he shot Harry... Chrissy also claims she lied because she said she wasn't aware of any drinking the day of the hunting .. but then the VP admitted in the interview he had a beer at lunch";

old_sage_says, post #274 "As you watch Gregory on MTP, look at his face and notice his mannerisms. His apology is NOT sincere, IMHO. I have an extra dime and am willing to bet he was forced to be on MTP to issue his shallow apology."; #307 "I am watching Chrissy's show, too. Howard Fineman is just too much. He says VP Cheney defines Mr Bush's Presidency. Fineman has no credibility. Zilch. Nada. Zero."

rockrr, post #342 "You could pass on MTP, (and no one would blame you!) but if you do you will miss an extraordinary butt-kicking from Mary Maitlan... She takes on both (It's my press-corps and I'll tantrum if I wanna) Gregory and the permanently PMS'y Maureen Dowdy. As we've seen elsewhere, these two extremely partisan urnalists have no intention of actually doing their jobs (unless they are ready to acknowledge that they are paid shills for the DNC), so it came as high entertainment to see Mary utterly destroy them, point by point... Paul Gigot works seamlessly as Mary's setup guy and between the two of them show the leftists as the clueless, classless droolers that they are... Did I actually see terrible timmy quaver and ask an unbiased question? I'll have to go back and view this one again!" (PH: good recap and analysis)

rodguy911, post #409 "Fox and Friends spent less than 5 mins. this morning on this story, I doubt others will mention it at all. Great catch McGruff. Not only was the WMD story glossed over for several months by the msm..." (PH: great post, but the eye strain!!!!! punctuation is our friend); #666 "For me the key is to keep the rat/media from setting the playing field each and every news cycle. We can and should control our own destiny."; #708 "'There are too many other important issues for the press to cover than this non issue. It was non-issue after the 1st day, and even more so now.' True words of wisdom here SC. IMHO after Britt Hume interviewed Cheney and Cheney told him basically, I shot the man and take full responsibility for doing so the story ended. The rest is just the msm continuing to set their agenda which is all left wing all the time. The big question becomes will we blindly follow like little sheeple or will we go our own way and cover the topics that can shape peoples lives like Able Danger, WMD's, the Barret Report and dozens of other ignored stories that really do effect the lives of Americans."; #869 "Lovely Lindsay does always appear to just have starred in a Bevis and Butthead episode. Just took a look at Mara--she forgot to wear her lipstick or comb her hair. She did rub up against a tube of lipstick however, pretty bad looking even for a rat." (PH: ouch! that's gonna leave a mark)

Sunnyflorida, post #205 "Peggy Noonan may have been a good speech writer in her day but her WSJ columns are unreadable. I never thought that sing-song intonation of hers could be translated to the written word but she proved me wrong."; #253 "They did not deal with the facts in the "port" story. I think correctly it is a political issue. Good thing, because economics, science or geography is not a required course for FNC's info-babes and editors and writers. Too bad...";

tioga, post #286 "...(Maureen Dowd) was just so flat and emotionless. There was no spark in her eyes, no change of expression on her face.......she looks and sounds like a robot. I am a 'real' woman, and real women show emotion and know how to have some fun. I think she lacks the ability to really live, which explains why she is still single." (PH: ouch, that's gonna leave a mark!);

TomGuy, post #28  "Wonder whether Tim's first question to Chertoff (like it was the last time Chertoff was on MTP) will be: Mr. Chertoff, shouldn't you resign?" (PH: which he apparently did, according to Bahbah's post #46); #146 "...Noticed that Russert only showed text of the McClellan-Gregory off-camera exchange...";

YaYa123, post #325 "On FOX... Birch Bayh very slick indeed!... LOL Lindsey Graham calls Nancy Pelosi 'the gift that keeps on giving'... Bayh has disturbing hair for a presidential candidate... Lindsey Graham always enumerates his responses, Very reminiscent of Clinton..." (PH: good analysis); #493 "... I say beware any politician who sounds so much like Al Franken's Stuart Smalley, who said, 'I'M GOOD ENOUGH, I'M SMART ENOUGH, AND DOGGONE IT, PEOPLE LIKE ME!'... Bayh was Smalley personified when he said: 'To my party, I urge that we do not change the subject or attempt to avoid this fight. It is our chance, and responsibility, to show the American people that we are tough enough and smart enough to protect this great country in perilous and uncertain times.'";

Posts Expanding On (Or Arguing Over) The Topics On The Shows

chiller, post #357 "...2 weeks ago at CPAC, remember, one of the stated strategies was to bypass OLD media to get the message out.. While the shooting isn't part of the Republican message, it is right in line with the plan. And the intentional baiting of the media to motivate the base is Rove's genius... I hope old media doesn't pick up on this."; #424 "Correct. And that Russert would even ask the question "did the media go too far" in his show promo tells me they've felt the sting. They know damn well they went to far and this is their attempt to save their ass with most of Americans... I want to see the questions and the internals of this morning's Time poll that suggest Cheney should have taken responsibility sooner.";

Christian4Bush, post #556 "...The other issue about these duplicitous senators (like Dingy Harry, like She Who Must Not Be Named, like Box of Rox, like Upchuck Schumer) is that these people are responsible (or at least have a vote) for making the laws of this country, and who get to decide who does and does not serve as judges and members of the President's cabinet... Given this, you have someone like S.W.M.N.B.N., where those Rose Law firm records just mysteriously reappear (after the statute of limitations on them expires), you have Dingy Harry, the Senate Minority Leader who boasts of killing the Patriot Act, having a stroke and not informing anyone for three days... You have a Senator who runs for president, campaigning as a war hero of a war he hated (and from which he received four deferments before being denied a fifth), then came home and undermined the war, and then met with our communist enemy while a member of the military, and then bashes the President about not providing what the troops need, yet "voted for the $87 billion, before (he) voted against it... You have Ted (hiccup) Kennedy driving off of a bridge with a woman in his car (not his wife), doesn't inform the authorities until the next morning, leaving the woman to SUFFOCATE (not drown), you have Jay Leakyfeller tipping off foreign countries that our President has already made up his mind about going to war against it - months before it happened...";

daybreakcoming, post #427 "Chris Wallace just saying that the reason the VP stayed in the news this week was because there was no other news out there! Scuse me Chris - but speaking of VP's - how about a former VP's speech in SA a few days ago? Huh? Further inflaming the Arab street is not news?";

Howlin, #430 "Isikoff, the man who hid Monica, finally finds his 'big story.'" (PH: in response to post 291, with link to Isikoff's article The Shot Heard Round the World and the related FR thread);

malia, #492 "...Vince Foster's death (I can't say suicide) .. Vince's office was looted, and I've heard 30 hours went by before they even alerted the media, the delay of the clinton Blind Trust, and the biggy - for me - is the suspicious surgery clinton had in Florida - that was no ankle surgery!!!... For hillary clinton to step before the camera and accuse President Bush of having the most secretive Adm. ever only elaborates the love affair the media has with the Democrats." (PH: see my comments in post #669)

OldFriend, post #225 "...(Simpson) made an outstanding case for the Vice President, which Matthews chose to ignore..."; #249 "...For whatever reason, Brian Lamb has chosen sides, and it's AGAINST America."; #294 "Cafferty has become the poster boy for CNN. Not something good for CNN!..."; #515 "One little disagreement. WE are not turning over our ports. They were already operated by Great Britain. They sold, or tried to sell, their rights to the UAE... Facts are pesky things, but imperative if we are to have an informed citizenry... I despair!"; #861 "The insanity of suggesting that every ship ought to line... up, like we do at the airport, for inspecttion... Goods would be delayed for an unacceptable amount of time... Would we board every ship, open every container?.. All this bullshipping about the ports is simply a case of wanting money money money and more money."

Pukin Dog, post #668 "When a few media outlets get around to publishing the TRUTH about this Ports story, the Dems will wind up losers again, through their xenophobic, racist way of handling it. A few Conservatives went nuts without knowing the facts, thanks mainly to Michelle Malkin who actually got this one wrong... This deal is going to go through, most in Congress knew about it, and there is nothing to the story. Most of the discussion is completely void of facts about the sale, what it means or how the ports actually work... Dems swing for the fences, but are about to ground-out again."; #720 "I wish Jack Bauer would visit the DNC sometime." (PH: very un-PC, but funny); #876 "I am referring to the Buchananites among us who know nothing about the Port issue, yet have formed an opinion anyway. They always fall back to the "its from the middle east, so it must be wrong" crowd. They know nothing about Dubai or how it's people and organizations feel about America. They said nothing about the fact that Brits were, are, and will be managing the same port operations as before, but now that they will be working under Dubai ownership, it is now a bad idea. They don't know that port operators don't have anything to do with port security, or that the issue has even been vetted already to determine whether or not there are any security issues to be concerned about. Some are even taking the media story hook line and sinker, and believe that we actually sold our ports to the UAE. Very few FReepers are taking the time to educate themselves on the issue prior to sharing their views on it. They don't even care that they are being used by Democrats so that they can appear tough on National Security, if it would mean that they would be wrong with their initial (and I stand by RACIST) attitude about this deal."

samantha, post #878 "...IMHO this is the post of the day...The old media print Magazines are losing more and more circulation to Cable/Satellite shows, and On-line New Media. I do not read magazines at all anymore,especially Newsweak,Time,etc. It is like Evan Thomas' Communist Grandaddy is the editor for all of them. There is so much advertisement in these publications it is very hard to pick your way through the ads for the story." (PH: referring to gov_bean_ counter's post #663)

snugs, #89  "The Houston Cronicle will not let go (of birdshotgate)..." (PH: great article links); #147 "I think the media somehow think that the VP is not human. IMHO waters run deep with him, he does not show on the surface that much emotion but I am certain he feels it..."; #223 I just do not understand this secrecy thing. What I see is people wishing to retain some sort of private life but release a tremendous amount of info and also have transparent private lives..." (PH: great analysis, great pictures too); #296 "...IMHO though I feel the VP was right not to disclose who he was talking with. As Cheney said how in future would you ensure that these top executives were willing to talk to the administration if they thought their names would be blazed all over the media."; #412 "It it has been said on FR by many that the hatred of Bush/Cheney is more like the forces of good and evil clashing and I think that there is more than an element of truth in this."; #431 "...with Dick Cheney it is in the eyes." (PH: great pictures of the Cheneys); #490 "The press hate Rummy because he will not play their game but instead plays with them."; #505 "Talking of trust funds I bet the MSM will forget to mention that it was announced in Wyoming on Friday that Dick and Lynne Cheney's Trust Fund had donated 2.7M dollars to Wyoming University..."; #762 "I can testify to that from a UK point of view and in slightly different circumstances but does show that checks are being made at all ports. I work for a manufacturer, we have a joint venture company in China, I was sending them some gearboxes to assemble into machines they are making for us... They were loaded into a container with a lot of other equipment from other exporters and twice it missed a vessel finally I was advised that customs and the DTI (Department of Trade and Industry) had ceased the container. This was because someone was sending protective clothing to China which seemed strange as normal protective clothing is probably made in China. The Port/Customs Authorities were concerned that the goods were in fact nuclear protective clothing and maybe were going to be shipped from China to Iran... This illustrates that ports worldwide are looking at cargo and making sure it is stopped before it leaves the port of departure not seized at the port of entry because that maybe too late." (PH: major real-world information that contributes to the current debate on ports in a way that the MSM just can't match)

Posts On Topics Not Covered (but should have been)

68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub, post #387 "Some of the stories that are NOT be talked about today!... Rumsfeld slams war statements by Murtha... Copies of Saddam tapes available..." (PH: with links and a little righteous rabble rousing); #396 "You will stay right where you are on the thread... Please take a moment and Thank a Service Man or Woman..." (PH: special honor for this post, with link);

AliVeritas, post #19 "I love cspan, no room for the hearings last week, but plenty of time for liberal causes. I wonder if the program on Sudan will deal with how many christians have been killed by muslims?"; #24 "Does anyone think someone will cover Novak's column?..." (PH: the Novak column on union political spending);

FreedomNeocon, post #62 "LOL... I just got through C-SPAN to the call screener..." (PH: good question, but they wouldn't let it be asked); #109 "...Thats the dirty slyness of the MSM...";

Kimberly GG, post #123 "...I have 'concluded' that regardless of what is found to be on the tapes re: wmds, the liberal spin will be, "of course Saddam had wmds, he used them on the Kurds, everyone knows that you idiots, however, there is NO evidence on any of the tapes that Saddam was an imminent threat to America. In fact, Saddam actually warned us that an attack was coming, but not from Iraq." (PH: good summary of the MSM spin on the Saddam tapes); #142 "...I wish the tapes had not been released to the media until after the summit and until the attendees has a chance to get out ahead of it with Tierney's translation.";

McGruff, post #74 "Fox and Friends spent less than 5 mins. this morning on this story, I doubt others will mention it at all... Ex-Official: Russia Moved Saddam's WMDs..." (PH: great catch, with link to separate FR thread); #470 "Chris Wallace just saying ...because there was no other news out there... That statement just shows how much Chris Wallace is just another MSM clone... 1: Al Gore's outrageous statement in Saudi Arabia... 2: The Able Danger hearings this week... 3: The Saddam WMD revelations this past week... But I'm just a armature in pajamas compared to a career news man like him... We want Brit or Tony back!";

oneofmany, post #267 "Mary Matalin: Slayer of the self righteous" (PH: great line)

onyx, post #757 "Just for the record and accuracy, please check HOWLIN'S thread! ... FOR THE RECORD: CBS Memos Controversy on Free Republic..." (PH: great historic link)

p23185, post #529 "...what just drives me up a tree is the media's so-called 'right to spill national secrets so the American public can see what their evil President is doing to them' under the freedom of press argument. No one has the right to publish TOP SECRET information without the Government's declassification and approval. I would venture a guess that amongst thinking Americans the MSM has sunk to its lowest credibility in its history. Lets see a poll on who believes the MSM!!";

surrey, post #791 "My husband just got home from Atlanta. Two servicemen got on the flight returning from a tour of duty in Iraq. The flight attendant told the passengers that they were home for a short time and would be deployed again. My husband and his seatmate gave these 2 guys their 1st class seats."

Well done all.  Very, very good discussions.  I really think we provided all of us (and our silent observers) with a very serious (though often funny) and well put together review of these shows.

Next, the Top 10.

1,010 posted on 02/20/2006 4:16:59 PM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Phsstpok
You are to be thanked and thanked some more for the massive undertaking of compiling these lists of posts.

Jan

1,011 posted on 02/20/2006 6:16:08 PM PST by OldFriend (MSM ~ controversy, crap, & confusion.....compliments of Alan Simpson)
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To: Alas Babylon!
(remember, this is my totally amateur attempt at filling in for the Top Ten list.  Be gentle <g>)

The Top 10

IMHO, these posters provided the most significant contributions, overall, to this thread.

It may always look this way to the person trying to sort through these posts and pick out the top ones, but I really think this was one of the best threads we've had.  Oh lucky me. </sarcasm>

Regardless, I have a new found respect and AWE of the people who have done this for us all in the past (not that I didn't before, but my goodness!!).  I have stumbled through this this weeks thread, and have actually paid a price for doing so (poor me), but I wouldn't exchange this experience if you paid me (though if you wanted to make an offer I'd like to see how I'd react).  I will, however, think long and hard before taking this on again.  The reward of reading and assessing these post is immense, but the cost is very high and the responsibility is overwhelming (OK, I'm being melodramatic, but I'm not being facetious).

A little formatting info.  I've set it up so that the links to the cited posts should be live, so you can click and go directly to what I extracted from.  Where I've extracted I have used ellipses (...) to indicate that there is more of the post in the direction of the ellipses.  I've also used ellipses to stitch together separate paragraphs from posts in order to avoid line breaks.  Things in parenthesis that start with PH: are my comments.

10th place through 6th place are basically in alphabetical order.  All of them deserve to be in the top 10 but I'm really torn about the order.  I have to admit that there are several folks in the Honorable Mention list that I wanted to include here as well, but I had to draw the line somewhere.  Damn these rules!

Positions four and five are very close to being interchangeable, so far as I'm concerned.  You might notice the use of the term "impassioned" for both.  Beyond that they also have very good analysis and unquestioned contribution to the value of the discussion in common.  It was a very tough call and probably came down to the "special applause" line.

Third and second place are really tough as they represent totally different things.

Seattle Conservative's posts are always the most generous in providing background and links for the rest of us so that we can make our own judgments.  That may ultimately be the most valuable contribution to this thread of all.  The analysis in her posts is also top notch, but it sometimes gets overwhelmed with the outstanding background info.  I DO NOT WANT TO STOP THAT BACKGROUND INFO AS I DEPEND ON IT, but I'd like to find some way to highlight Seattle Conservative's analysis, which is top notch.

Morgan in Denver's posts are almost all very well thought out and supported.  They each provide some additional bit of information or insight that helps others to analyze what is being said (and what is being pushed) on the Sunday shows. Most of the posts reached beyond what was said on the Sunday shows and provided context, insight or background for us to form our own conclusions, as well as providing an excellent guide to what the most reasonable conclusion should be.  If it weren't for that "I love you" post... unnnnngggghhhhhh! <g>

And then we have Peach.  From my point of view Peach provided the perfect example of the best of the best on this thread.  We have relevant facts (with links) along with cogent commentary, appropriately snappy remarks, on point references to external information, both supportive and explanatory posts regarding other posters comments (without any conflict... always positive).  And then there's post 674.  This post addressed issues that are particularly important to me (I admit my bias) and elevates this post and this thread above and beyond the typical "right wing geeks patting each other on the back" (I don't buy that description, but Peach's posts put the lie to that idea beyond any argument).  We are making a difference.  We can influence what is said and done, in the media, in the halls of Congress and in the larger world.  Peach's posts are great examples of that truth.

Congratulations all, and to everyone, please be kind.  I'm so fragile..... <G>

Tenth Place - anita, excellent combination of comment and background information, spot on comments with excellent analysis

Ninth Place - eeevil conservative, fast and furious blow by blow comments on the shows, without pulling any punches (plus what I would like to promote as a new FreeRepublic tradition - the in house THWAP?  Kind of like a friendly zot, or what I called a notzot)

Eighth Place - gov_bean_ counter, excellent comments that provided very good perspective on the key issues, post #663 is especially significant to the discussions for this coming week

Seventh Place - Laverne, excellent analysis of the key issues on the shows, with a particular nod for the smack down of "Katrina Van den Hoofinmouth" (remind me not to make you mad)

Sixth Place - maica, fantastic extension of the arguments on the shows, with links to supporting articles - this may be one of the areas FR is most important for, bringing in other sources that we wouldn't normally have access to and these posts provide excellent examples

Fifth Place - Txsleuth, a lot of impassioned posts on a lot of topics (Txsleuth UNBOUND!) but these gems stood out for their very strong analysis

Fourth Place - MNJohnnie, impassioned, reactive, sometimes over the top (appropriately), and very good analysis as well as dynamite supporting information and links - MNJohnnie deserves special applause for this one phrase "More idiot babble from the Insane Senate Posse. HEY Senate MORONS" - truly priceless

Third Place - Seattle Conservative, best provider of relevant background information, hands down - the supporting information (with links) are so good that the very rare occurrence when a link isn't provided caused me to take notice - the only problem for me is that there is so much information provided that I lose track of the excellent analysis - I get overwhelmed and forget what great personal comments are being made and only remember the background info (with links) - but please don't change, just highlight your own analysis... please?

Second Place - Morgan in Denver, serious, reasoned and well thought out discussion posts advancing us beyond what was said on the shows (except for that "I love you" post.... unnnnngggggghhhhhhh! <g>) - note to Morgan in Denver, I will try to make this my last reference to THAT POST... promise - seriously, you have truly contributed significantly to the discussions for some time, but particularly this week - providing us with a framework to understand both sides of the argument is overwhelmingly valuable and your willingness to do this, regardless of your own point of view, speaks volumes about your intellectual integrity (is that laying it on just a bit thick?  Well, stuff it, it's how I read these posts)

First Place - Peach, fabulous posts, analyzing and expanding on the shows, with much information (including links) that explain and support particular points - and post #674 goes above and beyond (and touches on a pet peeve of mine) - the fact that I was able to pull such brief sections of such excellent posts while still thinking that I had caught some telling point speaks volumes about the information in every post Peach makes.  May I say BRAVO!!! ?

As well, I am proposing that a Special FreeRepublic Award be given to Alan Simpson for his closing line on FNS

"All you get from the press corps is controversy, crap and confusion."

first mentioned in post #120 by Peach, then commented on by animal172 #126, Laverne #122 "Simpson is wonderfully refreshing on the show today with Wallace. If you haven't seen it, make sure you catch the rerun.", Mo1 #125 "The 3 C's ... LOL", old_sage_says #129 "Wouldn't it be wonderful to see that quote as a headline, somewhere?", maggief #138 "that's a great tagline", beyond the sea #217;

Anybody know how to get in touch with (ex) Senator Simpson?  C'mon!  Wyoming only has 300,000 people in it!  Somebody has to have an "in!"

ce fini - I am done - have at it

1,012 posted on 02/20/2006 6:41:27 PM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: anita; eeevil conservative; gov_bean_ counter; Laverne; maica; Txsleuth; MNJohnnie; ...
Oh my, I forgot to include the top 10 winners in the ping

Tenth Place - anita

Ninth Place - eeevil conservative

Eighth Place - gov_bean_ counter

Seventh Place - Laverne

Sixth Place - maica

Fifth Place - Txsleuth

Fourth Place - MNJohnnie

Third Place - Seattle Conservative

Second Place - Morgan in Denver

First Place - Peach

 

1,013 posted on 02/20/2006 7:00:50 PM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Phsstpok

Thank you, thank you very much.


1,014 posted on 02/20/2006 7:11:02 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (It is easy to call for a pi$$ing contest when you aren't going to be in the line of fire.)
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To: Phsstpok

You did a wonderful, wonderful job....and you should be proud of yourself...

YOU deserve a special award for the pre-view thread..which prepared us all!!

Thank you for picking me...I just play off the best thread posters...this thread is SO good every week.

I pray that it didn't take too much out of you...I worry about you using those eyes too much and harming them.

Please take care of yourself!!


1,015 posted on 02/20/2006 7:31:33 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Peach

Congratulations PEACH...you really did well this week...as usual...I love your posts!


1,016 posted on 02/20/2006 7:32:17 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Morgan in Denver

Hey friend...look at you..coming in second...I am sure your wife will for sure be impressed!!!

Congratulations...see you next week!


1,017 posted on 02/20/2006 7:33:56 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Seattle Conservative

Congratulations...SC, once again you provided some wonderful links...I enjoy them all!!!

You work so hard every week, and I want to thank you!


1,018 posted on 02/20/2006 7:35:18 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Phsstpok; Peach; snugs; MNJohnnie; rodguy911; Morgan in Denver; anita; eeevil conservative; ...

Congratulations to all of you in the top 1-10 winner column this week, especially Peach and Morgan, and all the other posters for a great thread!

Johnnie, Rod, Snugs, AB, and Phsstpok thank you for all your hard work throughout all the weeks to make this thread (and our new pre-show thread) so great! Phsstpok, you really put in a lot of work this week - great format for the analysis and synopsis of this thread (I can't even imagine how long it took you)and all the work you did to bring us the Pre-show thread!

We discussed that 'secretive admin' was one of the Dims talking points - - I don't always get a chance to listen to Rush, and guess what he led off the show with today (we also discussed some of the MSM and talk show hosts lurking on our thread, BTW Tony Snow discussed the port issue and, from Rush's site, it appears he did, too - - -we're just such little trend-setters ;-)!
Here's a link to Rush's site (PH wouldn't be happy if I didn't provide a link ;-) where you can hear a funny audio of Bubba saying 'he doesn't remember' for about 2 minutes! Hmm, and the Bush Administration is the secretive one???

My guess is that 1 of the topics on the shows next week will be Dubai and the port issue (gee, tough guess, eh?)

Have a GREAT week everyone!

FRegards,
SC


1,019 posted on 02/20/2006 7:35:56 PM PST by Seattle Conservative (God bless and protect our troops and their CIC.)
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To: Phsstpok; rodguy911; Alas Babylon!; Seattle Conservative; Morgan in Denver
Congratulations


1,020 posted on 02/20/2006 7:36:11 PM PST by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME)
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