Posted on 02/17/2006 3:59:05 AM PST by Klickitat
Mexicos Surprising AdmissionEmigration Not Necessary
Are Mexican illegal aliens such desperately poor people that they will die of starvation unless we let them into the United States?
Or is the truth a little more complicated?
Allen Wall
The pro-open borders government of Mexico recently made a surprising public admission.
Not surprising for its content, but surprising that they publicly admitted it.
On January 9th, at a press conference in Los Pinos (the Mexican White House), Fox administration spokesman Ruben Aguilar was asked about emigration.
Here is part of what he said,
In some cases it [emigration] has to do with real problems of poverty, and in others it answers to other types of personal interest. Statistics reveal that a very, very high number of the persons who emigrate to the United Status had work in Mexico. They dont emigrate to get a job, but they emigrate for another series of conditions also of a cultural character, because they hope for a better condition of life despite the fact that they had work here. They arent going because they dont have work in Mexico." (En algunos casos tiene que ver con problemas reales de pobreza, y en otros responde a otro tipo de intereses de las personas. Las estadísticas revelan que un número muy, muy alto, de las personas que emigran a los Estados Unidos tenían trabajo en México, no emigran por no tener trabajo, sino emigran por otra serie de condiciones también de carácter cultural, porque esperan una mejor condición de vida a pesar de que aquí tenían trabajo, no se están yendo porque no tengan trabajo en México.) [Press conference transcript]
This fits in with a recent report released by the Pew Hispanic Center entitled Unemployment Plays Small Role in Spurring Mexican Migration to the U.S.
The material for this study was based on surveys of Mexican immigrants applying for matricula consular cards in the U.S., which means nearly all of them were illegal aliens.
The polling was conducted in 7 U.S. cities (Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, Atlanta, Dallas, Raleigh and Fresno) from the East Coast to the West Coast.
Pews press release begins:
"The vast majority of undocumented migrants from Mexico were gainfully employed before they left for the United States, according to a Pew Hispanic Center report released today. The report suggests that failure to find work at home does not seem to be the primary reason that the estimated 6.3 million undocumented migrants from Mexico have come to the U.S.
It also stated that "Unemployment plays a minimal role in motivating workers from Mexico to migrate to the U.S. Only 5% of the survey respondents who have been in the U.S. for two years or less were unemployed while still in Mexico."
Another interesting tidbit:
The more recently arrived and younger migrants from Mexico are better educated than their predecessors (though their education levels remain low by U.S. standards)."
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The latest arrivals are less likely to be farm workers and more likely to have a background in other industries, such as commerce and sales."
This all fits in with my own observations here in Mexico. Ive known of several Mexicans who had a job but left to work in the U.S. anyway. One of them even owned his own business. Before being called up to go to Iraq, I worked in one of the most expensive private schools in the area. Even there I knew an employee who had a job, but headed north anyway.
These people werent starving to death. They just wanted to earn more money. Completely understandablebut hardly a justification of open borders.
You can count on the Mexican government, though, to promote emigration no matter what. As I reported in a previous article, Mexico Has No Intention of Decreasing Emigration:
"According to a document issued in November of 2001 by CONAPO, the Mexican National Population Council, even with a decrease in the birth rate and an improved Mexican economy, emigration to the U.S. will not diminish for at least the next 30 years! CONAPO called this emigration "inevitable." Of course what CONAPO really means by "inevitable" is that it doesn't want it stopped."
Mexican emigration is driven by a combination of factors. Part of it is economic. But part of it, as even the Fox administration now admits, is driven by personal and cultural factors.
Much of it is sheer inertial momentum. Mexicans have been conditioned to go north in search of work. They have plenty of relatives and friends who have already made the trip and can help them make theirs. Remittances from Mexicans in the U.S. encourage more emigration. Migration routes are in place. A whole network of smugglers is established on the border.
On the U.S. side, a vast Mexican social network is there to receive them. A vast network of American employers is there to hire them. Add to that the many organizations which encourage illegal immigration and the American government programs that support them.
It all works together to keep the illegal migration train moving.
The really destitute Mexicans are too poor to emigrate to the U.S. After all, it costs money to get to the border and it costs money to pay smugglers. So the really destitute Mexicans stay home, or migrate to shantytowns in Mexican urban centers.
Its common for both proponents of open borders and immigration restrictionists to portray Mexico as more economically miserable than it really is.
Frequently, middle class American tourists cross the border to Tijuana, Nuevo Laredo or Ciudad Juarez. When they see these border towns, some tourists freak out because these border cities dont look like their suburbs back home.
But when you look at Mexico in world context, things dont look so bad. According the CIA World Factbook, Mexicos GDP per capita is $10,000.
Sure, thats a lot lower than the U.S. ($41,800), but its higher than the world average of $9,300.
Mexico is a free country. Its citizens enjoy freedom of movement, freedom of speech and freedom of religion. Mexico has free elections and is even now engaged in a presidential election. So lets have no nonsense about Mexicans moving to the U.S. "in search of freedom".
Mexico has problems, but they certainly pale in comparison to those of Iraq, where I just did a tour of duty.
The United Nations has a Human Development Index (HDI) which calculates countries quality of life based on life expectancy, educational attainment and adjusted real income.
The list goes from #1 Norway to #177 Niger. (The U.S. is #10).
Mexico ranks # 53, above some eastern European countries and has a higher score than its neighbors Belize (#91) and Guatemala (#117).
But who rejoices about that? Hardly anybody compares Mexico to Guatemala or Niger. Its always the U.S. they compare Mexico to.
Mexicos per capita income is about a quarter that of the U.S. This means that Mexicans can make more money in the U.S. than in Mexico. Therefore, they want to work in the U.S. Its not that they are starving to death and that only moving to the U.S. will save them. If the U.S.A. didnt exist, Mexicans would have to figure out some other way to make more money.
Mexicos economy could stand a lot of improvement, no doubt about it. But lets put things in perspective. This is not about starving people who will die if we control our own border.
The pseudo-humanitarian argument is simply designed to make Americans feel guilty so theyll support open borders. Not only is the argument misleading, it leads to policies that are harmful to Mexico. (See my previous articles "Does Emigration Really Help Mexico?" and "Deadbeat Dads Dont Stop at the Rio Grande.")
Now even the Mexican government has admitted it.
What about the Bush Administration?
Nice link. :O)
Those who engage in ad hominem attacks usually have no counter arguments.
I suspect that you are going to have difficult time because most people can differentiate between Lupe the leaf blower and Mohammed the shoe bomber.
"Welcome to the United States of America
Press 1 for English
Press 2 for go the hell back where you came from"
I think I did. It's not hyperbole. These activities border on sedition.
"Likewise, that Mexico, Latin America, and other nations of the world force the US to allow their illegals into the country to work."
Er... Vicente Fox uses all the influence at his command (legal and illegal) to make sure the border stays open.
Although (using your defacto argument) in the end, it IS our politicians who FORCE us to allow illegals into the country to work by not closing the borders.
They are insane. Now in California they are prohibiting smoking in the open public spaces like parks.
The they really think that Jose or Eduardo will pay any attention to these silly Puritan rules when the overtaxed WASPs will be reduced to the few gated communities?
That, of course, would include you. Had anything to eat lately?
Yeah, like trying to go a week without using a product made in China.
According to the most recent data, 57% of the illegals come from Mexico, 27% from other Latin American countries, 10% from Asia, and the remainder from around the world. Because of this, your attempt make it a Mexico issue just doesn't fly.
The second thing that you are ignoring is that a very large number of the illegals in this country are visa overstays and didn't sneak across the border. A good example of this is those(including Mexicans) who entered on the H2A ag worker visa but went AWOL because they can make more money laying asphalt than they can picking peaches. A second example are muslims who entered under a student visa and went underground and joined a sleeper cell. A third example would be the young Irish men and women who enter under the H2B to be waitstaff and when the visa expires, they don't leave. Would it surprise you to know that the Irish and Mexican govts' position on US immigration policy is identical?
If the US is going to allow/solicit these illegals to exist in the US with a defacto legal status, why make them go thru an illegal process to get here?
These examples that you(and many others) use to try to say that Mexico and other Latin American countries are trying to promote illegal immigration is mis-info. Their position is, why make them risk their life from dying in the desert, drowning in the river, or being murdered by a coyote, if you are going to let them stay? Why make them pay a smuggler 5 grand to get them to Boston, if you are going to let them stay?
These are good questions and point to the fallacy of trying to expand enforcement on the border without reforming immigration policy.
I'm not making it a mexican issue. Simply illustrating a point by using Fox as an example. I'm sure most of the other governments whose nationals are infiltrating our country are using whatever means are at their disposal to continue the invasion. I believe we should deport ALL illegal aliens IMMEDEATELY. I also believe we should do so at the expense of their country of origin. You're the one making this a Mexican issue.
The fact that these folks originally came here legally doesn't change a thing. If they are here past the expiration date on their visa, they are breaking the law. They need to be tracked down and deported.
Oh, and not everyone in the US encouraging them to come. (As is evidenced by a majority of posts in this thread.) It is only a small percentage of people (employers ILLEGALLY employing them, and the politicos who coddle them). The majority of US citizens want this to stop. Last time I checked, that was supposed to count for something.
I'll go ahead and refute the only illegal immigration apologist's point you haven't made yet: that our economy would collapse without them... I highly doubt that this is actually true, but if it is, we have LEGAL immigration methods and quotas, and can address the issue that way.
Instead of apologizing for criminal behavior lax enforcement, please provide reasons that it is in our best interest to continue on this path. By doing so, we are jeapordizing our national security and sacrificing the economic well-being of our citizens by continuing with the status-quo. Is this really so hard to understand?
There are a couple of other talking points that need to be discussed here.
We also need to crack down on the employers who are providing incentive by ILLEGALLY employing these folks. They are criminals too, and deserve to be punished accordingly.
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Its remarkable. Mexico, indeed almost all of Latin America are failed societies. The flight from these countries of large numbers of people is proof of this failure.
Why in the world - other than vanity and pride - would the leaders (or anyone else) of Mexico or any Latin American country believe that anyone who want to replicate Latin culture in the US or replace US culture with Latin culture?
I can see that
The reality is that the US has labor shortages that are not going away.
As Alan Greenspan(to include all economists) has said numerous time, if you constrict the labor supply, wages will rise. If wages rise without a corresponding rise in productivity, inflation rises.
So if China, and India and all the hordes of people around the world want to come here and be good citizens it's ok with you? I think America has a large enough population already. Have you noticed how crowded the cities and freeways are? How big of a population is big enough for you?
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