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To: CowboyJay
Let me point out a few things to you.

According to the most recent data, 57% of the illegals come from Mexico, 27% from other Latin American countries, 10% from Asia, and the remainder from around the world. Because of this, your attempt make it a Mexico issue just doesn't fly.

The second thing that you are ignoring is that a very large number of the illegals in this country are visa overstays and didn't sneak across the border. A good example of this is those(including Mexicans) who entered on the H2A ag worker visa but went AWOL because they can make more money laying asphalt than they can picking peaches. A second example are muslims who entered under a student visa and went underground and joined a sleeper cell. A third example would be the young Irish men and women who enter under the H2B to be waitstaff and when the visa expires, they don't leave. Would it surprise you to know that the Irish and Mexican govts' position on US immigration policy is identical?

If the US is going to allow/solicit these illegals to exist in the US with a defacto legal status, why make them go thru an illegal process to get here?

These examples that you(and many others) use to try to say that Mexico and other Latin American countries are trying to promote illegal immigration is mis-info. Their position is, why make them risk their life from dying in the desert, drowning in the river, or being murdered by a coyote, if you are going to let them stay? Why make them pay a smuggler 5 grand to get them to Boston, if you are going to let them stay?

These are good questions and point to the fallacy of trying to expand enforcement on the border without reforming immigration policy.

33 posted on 02/17/2006 7:34:11 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

I'm not making it a mexican issue. Simply illustrating a point by using Fox as an example. I'm sure most of the other governments whose nationals are infiltrating our country are using whatever means are at their disposal to continue the invasion. I believe we should deport ALL illegal aliens IMMEDEATELY. I also believe we should do so at the expense of their country of origin. You're the one making this a Mexican issue.

The fact that these folks originally came here legally doesn't change a thing. If they are here past the expiration date on their visa, they are breaking the law. They need to be tracked down and deported.

Oh, and not everyone in the US encouraging them to come. (As is evidenced by a majority of posts in this thread.) It is only a small percentage of people (employers ILLEGALLY employing them, and the politicos who coddle them). The majority of US citizens want this to stop. Last time I checked, that was supposed to count for something.

I'll go ahead and refute the only illegal immigration apologist's point you haven't made yet: that our economy would collapse without them... I highly doubt that this is actually true, but if it is, we have LEGAL immigration methods and quotas, and can address the issue that way.

Instead of apologizing for criminal behavior lax enforcement, please provide reasons that it is in our best interest to continue on this path. By doing so, we are jeapordizing our national security and sacrificing the economic well-being of our citizens by continuing with the status-quo. Is this really so hard to understand?


34 posted on 02/17/2006 7:59:52 AM PST by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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To: Ben Ficklin

There are a couple of other talking points that need to be discussed here.

We also need to crack down on the employers who are providing incentive by ILLEGALLY employing these folks. They are criminals too, and deserve to be punished accordingly.


35 posted on 02/17/2006 8:09:50 AM PST by CowboyJay (Rough Riders! Tancredo '08)
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