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To: kimosabe31
My cousin was related to one of the jerks in Waco by marriage and her husband was on CNN about that.

They went down before the end and tried to get her husband's brother out. It was a cult full of mind controlled nuts armed to the gills.
They told the cult brother this was going to come to a bad end, it felt like Jones town there to them.
Though I hate Reno and Clinton, it was those inside that cause the long wait and eventual deaths.
They had the choice to comply and chose not to.
It isn't the brightest storing fuel inside the place either.

The whole thing was a dangerous cult.
29 posted on 02/17/2006 12:07:45 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

It would not have happened had not Clinton and Reno wanted it that way!


57 posted on 02/17/2006 1:14:00 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (MAY I DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP, BUAIDH NO BAS)
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To: A CA Guy

Your post # 29. Please enlighten us as to what federal laws were broken. The local sheriff could have picked up Koresh almost any day of the week when he went into town. It is evident you are not up to speed as the what realy went on down there.


72 posted on 02/17/2006 4:59:52 AM PST by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: A CA Guy
The whole thing was a dangerous cult

The Branch Davidians were indeed a religious cult. They were not "dangerous" to anyone other than to their own members and that in the sense of allowing themselves and their children to be exploited. Yes, I know there was the incident with David Koresh and the previous leader but that had been dealt with legally. They had not offered violence to anyone in the community and they were not plotting against the nation. The local sheriff and state child protection authorities were able to deal with them peaceably when necessary. The alledged child abuse was the only reason for governmental interferance and that was a state, not a federal responsibility.

What the federal government did in Waco by staging a military raid against citizens was the very definition of governmental abuse of power which the state jury recognized when refusing to convict the surviving Davidians of murder of federal agents. The foreman of that jury said the government was more at fault for what happened there. With all the dissappeared evidence, a federal judge who was not holding the government accountable (remember the lies by federal agents about the use of pyrotechnics and the untruthful and misleading statements in the original warrent) and failed "Congressional" hearings we never got to the truth about Waco. Neither Congress nor the state of Texas held the federal governmnet accountable for its abusive use of power against its citizens and no federal agents ever went to jail for conducting a coverup.

I am more worried about attitudes among citizens that excuses such abuse of governmental power and authority than I am about the existance of religious cults like the Branch Davidians. Now the Islamic "cults" who have vowed jihad against America, have already murdered thousands of Americans and who continue to plot and prepare to use terror against us -- that is conducting war against us and this is a true federal responsibility. Why in heaven the federal government would defend what it did in Waco and then allow this activity to go unchallenged is unexplainable.

75 posted on 02/17/2006 5:25:14 AM PST by politeia
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To: A CA Guy
My question would be: Were the dividians a threat to our national internal security and the local community as these jihadist terrorist training centers are? And, if not, what's the holdup in their eradication...what are the feds waiting for? I'd sure as hell like to know. Are the feds waiting for trouble to start and the citizens have to defend themselves with their personal firearms. Which side will the feds then come down on? Will they do their job and eradicate the islamomess OR will they attempt to disarm private citizens rendering them helpless to defend themselves and their families against the terrorists?

Based on the Bush administration track record on border security and the handling of illegal OTM's, I believe these are legitimate questions.

These are questions I'd like to have answered ASAP.

122 posted on 02/17/2006 12:05:55 PM PST by kimosabe31
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To: A CA Guy

Did you watch the video of Waco?

So, in your intellectual coolness you can ignore the heat which consumed innocent children.

Before you utter another word about Waco, watch the second video, then report back.

Just to fit in you used the word hate, your specious post reflects your lack of knowledge and points to a disconnect between reality and your uneducated "opinion."


163 posted on 02/18/2006 7:05:48 PM PST by Hilltop
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