LOL you would have made a better point if you had not used childish name calling.
Yes there are middle class leaders as there were with the Communists.
Yes there were the radical terrorist groups in Europe made up of Middle Class students but they were never a real threat and easily dealt with as the Saudi radicals can be.
But I am talking about the third world masses. Not the First or Second World, where the motivation to fight is totally different
This war will be fought in the third world.
The third world where there is real poverty and where those masses will listen to anyone who promises them deliverance.
In the 50s 60s 70s and 80s it was the Communists now its the Islamist.
Get your head out of the first world way of thinking and into the third where this war will be fought.
As for typical euro weenie way of thinking.
I have taken part in may operations as envisaged in this report in Africa, as well as the Balkans and Middle East and I have seen what motivates the opposing foot soldiers and believe me there is a gulf between what they are fighting for and what there spiritual or political leaders think they are fighting for.
Whether it offends your political sensibilities or not this strategy will end up forming into a larger nation building exercise to alleviate poverty and foment democracy in the third world and you watch as your President will go on the Telly and state this in the coming months.
>>>> In the 50s 60s 70s and 80s it was the Communists now its the Islamist.
Now? It was the Charlie Wilson's and Rose Law Firm's that helped arm them. It was the foundation grants from the NGOs that enabled entry to other countries through universities.
If we don't fight the enablers, the enablers are going to make us into a communist state using the protect us from Al Aqaeda excuse.
"I have taken part in may operations as envisaged in this report in Africa, as well as the Balkans and Middle East and I have seen what motivates the opposing foot soldiers and believe me there is a gulf between what they are fighting for and what there spiritual or political leaders think they are fighting for.
Sorry, but that is NOT what I mean by "Euro-twit" thinking. "Euro-twit" thinking is based on throwing money at the leadership and hoping it will trickle down to the masses and they'll be "bought off". They did it with Arafat and essentially every other place where there has been a crisis.
It ain't workin'.
"Whether it offends your political sensibilities or not this strategy will end up forming into a larger nation building exercise to alleviate poverty and foment democracy in the third world and you watch as your President will go on the Telly and state this in the coming months.
Which is exactly the OPPOSITE of "Euro-twit" thought, that is typified by what is currently taking place with the governments of France, Norway, Sweden and numerous others of "bowing down" to the "sensibilities" of the Islamofascists.
Eventually you "Euro" types (and I include today's Brits in that) are going to learn the same lesson supposedly taught to you by Hitler in WWII---appeasement doesn't work, and unless serious action (and I mean "kicking ass and taking names" on the LEADERSHIP of these movements) is taken, you are going to be in a world of hurt.
Rudy Guiliani pointed the way with the way he tackled crime in NYC.