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The world may celebrate the end of the Western civilization
Pravda ^ | 13.02.2006 | Sergei Mikheev

Posted on 02/14/2006 8:38:23 PM PST by presidio9

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To: BardFan
"Part of this is laughable when you know the facts. For example: "Having children has become something like atavism in the West which causes too much discomfort and trouble to people's professional careers and personal development"

You're so right. This statement coming from a Russian newspaper is laughable. Russia was the very first nation on earth to legalize abortion, and it was from Russia that this horror spread itself over the world.

41 posted on 02/14/2006 9:37:34 PM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" Pope Urban II ~ 1097A.D.)
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To: presidio9
I think the Russians have had it in several of the other fractured countries around Chechnya that have Muslim populations.

And in regards to Iran, I think they are bargaining with the West more so then the Iranians. They want to be sure to get their Iranian debts paid.
42 posted on 02/14/2006 9:38:42 PM PST by jcon40
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To: presidio9; puroresu
"India and Japan are among the most racist and xenophobic cultures on the planet."

Terms "racist" and "xenophobic" could be badges awarded by liberals and multiculturalists. Something like Purple Hearts accrued by an enemy.

Accepting your point, it is precisely their closed culture that makes them so strong. I wouldn't presume to bring our own obnoxious baggage into their land, but instead to assimilate.

As things are now, pop-Japanese culture is plenty in love with Western concepts, and the Indian work ethic is, "how do you say, PLEASE HOLD WHILE I CONNECT YOU, MA'AM..."

"Yeah, but the Asians are smart enough not to let too many foreigners in."

Then we must incentivize their coming here. At least in bigger numbers than the present usurpers we face.

Here's hoping it won't come to that anyway. Even as strictly operational allies, they will be important, failing the exchange of our population as some desperate experiment to save ourselves...

43 posted on 02/14/2006 9:38:55 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: TheCrusader
Just as an addendum to # 41, never trust a Russian.
44 posted on 02/14/2006 9:41:32 PM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" Pope Urban II ~ 1097A.D.)
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To: SteveMcKing
Terms "racist" and "xenophobic" could be badges awarded by liberals and multiculturalists.

I am neither. Also, the Japanese economy has been a mess for 15 years. They are going to continue to experience similiar growing pains to our own.

India, not China is the most likely to replace us as the global economic leader. But this will still take several generations.

45 posted on 02/14/2006 9:44:40 PM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K Virus -Only without the inconvenient deadline.)
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To: presidio9
Addendum to my last post please ?

I do agree they want the Chechnyan land under control - and the politics there too. And, they'd like some of the other land they lost in the breakup of the Soviet Union.

I just don't want to call the Russians "Worse" enemies than the Islamofascists
46 posted on 02/14/2006 9:45:19 PM PST by jcon40
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To: jcon40

Nothing would make the Russians happier than if they could stay neutral while we fought it out with Islam. They are allies of convenience and nothing more.


47 posted on 02/14/2006 9:49:44 PM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K Virus -Only without the inconvenient deadline.)
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To: presidio9
Yeah, it was getting old anyways.

You get tired of all this freedom stuff and long for the times when we were all ruled by tyrants and overlords.

Yup, who needs freedom. Apparently the rest of the world doesn't....... < /sarcasm off >

48 posted on 02/14/2006 9:51:24 PM PST by R_Kangel ("Those who follow wise men shall become wise, ......those who follow fools shall be destroyed !!!")
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To: presidio9

F the sheetheads!!!

If they are real men then they would not be sending women and children to do the dirty work while they hide IED's in the dark.

Come on you wimps- fight us face to face.

Ready and waiting for your chicken&h!t a$$e$...


49 posted on 02/14/2006 9:54:57 PM PST by ChefKeith (Flies,fleas,ants,ticks,cockroaches,bad cops,lawyers,judges & politicians All the same. Useless!!!)
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To: presidio9

I agree - we've used them too ! I think we have them in a pickle on Iran. The Russians aren't stupid.

Another post above said "Never trust a Russian". I agree with that comment too. But, I'd rather split booty in the end with Russians then Muslims


50 posted on 02/14/2006 9:55:54 PM PST by jcon40
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To: jcon40
Russia has always fought WITH U.S. in the end - so if another end is comming --- this article seems to really point out the enemy as, minorities and Islamic Idiocy, not the West.

In WWI deals were cut for the spoils of the Ottoman Empire before the "Great Game" was started. I'd bet there's some positioning going on right now.

Russia has never fought us directly, in the open, so to speak.

Instead, The USSR, and now Russia is content to let others do their bleeding for them. It would not be beyond the behaviour of the Soviet Union, (in the 'bad' old days?) to pit the forces of Islam and the Chinese against their old 'cold war' enemy.

Deniability exists should we prevail, plus the opportunity to pitch in "on our side" and share in the spoils of conquest.

Failing that, the mutual destruction of all potential adversaries by one another would leave Russia in a great position to take advantage of that weakness and establish global or nearly global hegemony.

I do not expect to see them in this fight directly, but in the background pulling strings.

I may be wrong, but unless they are directly threatened they will largely keep out of it, except to goad potential adversaries and facillitate their mutual animosities.

Putin is no stranger to Soviet era Strategy, he is 'ex' KGB.

51 posted on 02/14/2006 10:00:23 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

"Russia has never fought us directly, in the open, so to speak."

My post didn't say we'd ever fought them directly. It said "Russia has always fought WITH U.S. in the end"

I agree with all the posts that say they'd love to bleed us and I doubt we are stupid enough to let that happen.


52 posted on 02/14/2006 10:05:44 PM PST by jcon40
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To: bikepacker67
The World is gonna really unravel in the next 40 years

It may well but not along lines of race or religion. \

53 posted on 02/14/2006 10:06:48 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Condimaniac)
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To: presidio9
Hey hey! Ho ho!
Western Culture's got to go!
54 posted on 02/14/2006 10:07:32 PM PST by StACase
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To: redpoll

Given the technically uncreative nature of the Muslim culture, congenial neither to capitalism nor science, one shutters to think of the future world. But it must be more than the narrow rationalism of the past, which has produced men helpless before the will of the 'conquered."


55 posted on 02/14/2006 10:11:59 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: TheBrotherhood

Unfortunately, our universities are filled with those who have been taught that we are guilty.


56 posted on 02/14/2006 10:14:01 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: presidio9

I agree with the author. However, I feel most of the blame lies squarely on the shoulders of some shortsighted representatives.

We truck our produce and other goods across country, import foreign produce and other goods, send our children off to school on buses and then we have the unmitigated gall to scream that it's someone else's fault that oil is in short supply and we need to tear up Alaska to find more.

Currently, I'm observing the plains states complaining about their water tables that have been reduced by lack of conservation. HA! What will California do if the Colorado River dries up? I know. They'll attempt to purchase it from Washington state...but that's been tried before...by Enron.

And now Bush is selling off the forest to lumber mills. How many more houses will have to be built to accommodate all the immigrants?

The Bible tells of the last days at Rev. 6:3-8 and we're in them.


57 posted on 02/14/2006 10:17:42 PM PST by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: jcon40
Russia under the Stalin had initially sided with Hitler.

It was only after Hitler had broken the non-aggression pact that we ended up on the same side.

After that war, they served as advisors to our enemies, supplied them with arms, and in general, fought us by proxy in Korea and Vietnam. They supplied the missiles which the Cubans aimed at us, not to mention their own strategic forces.

They have not been 'with' us since WWII, and then only united against a common enemy who had betrayed them.

Please, give that another think. They are in it for the Rodina, first, last, and always.

58 posted on 02/14/2006 10:21:53 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: bikepacker67
This article is from PRAVADA, for crying out loud.

The writer talks as though Russia was NOT part of the "WEST"!

While some of what is written has a few grains of truth in it, the hyperbolic rest of it, is laughable.

59 posted on 02/14/2006 10:28:36 PM PST by nopardons
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To: TheCrusader

"... never trust a Russian."

I think that should be qualified. I happen to know some Russians immigrants in this country who are hardworking, ordinary (except for their broken English) kind of joes. I think you mean the high-ranking Russians are the ones not to be trusted.


60 posted on 02/14/2006 10:28:57 PM PST by Fruit of the Spirit
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