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Test Helps You Predict Chances of Dying
, AP Medical Writer ^ | 2/14/2006 | LINDSEY TANNER

Posted on 02/14/2006 1:35:59 PM PST by presidio9

It sounds like a perfect parlor game for baby boomers suddenly confronting their own mortality: What are your chances of dying within four years? Researchers have come up with 12 risk factors to try to answer that for people who are 50 and older.

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This is one game where you want a low score. Zero to 5 points says your risk of dying in four years is less than 4 percent. With 14 points, your risk rises to 64 percent.

Just being male gives you 2 points. So does having diabetes, being a smoker, and getting pooped trying to walk several blocks.

Points accrue with each four-year increment after age 60.

The test doesn't ask what you eat, but it does ask if you can push a living room chair across the floor.

The quiz is designed "to try to help doctors and families get a firmer sense for what the future may hold," to help plan health care accordingly, says lead author Dr. Sei Lee, a geriatrics researcher at the San Francisco Veterans Affairs Medical Center, who helped develop it.

"We know that patients and families want more prognostic information from doctors," Lee said. "It's a very natural human question of, 'What's going to happen to me?' We also know that doctors are very cautious about giving prognostic information because they don't want to be wrong."

This test is roughly 81 percent accurate and can give older people a reasonable idea of their survival chances, Lee and his colleagues say.

Of course, it isn't foolproof. Other experts note it ignores family history and it's much less meaningful for those at the young end of the spectrum.

The researchers even warn, Don't try this at home, saying a doctor can help you put things into perspective.

"Even if somebody looks at their numbers and finds they have a 60 percent risk of death, there could be other mitigating factors," said co-author and VA researcher Dr. Kenneth Covinsky.

There are things you can do to improve your chances, he notes, such as quitting smoking or taking up exercise.

The test is based on data involving 11,701 Americans over 50 who took part in a national health survey in 1998. Funded by a grant from the National Institute on Aging, the researchers analyzed participants' outcomes during a four-year follow-up. They based their death-risk survey on the health characteristics that seemed to predict death within four years.

Their report appears in Wednesday's Journal of the American Medical Association.

Dr. Donald Jurivich, geriatrics chief at the University of Illinois at Chicago, took the test and got a nice low score. Jurivich is 52. He said he'd feel better about his score if both his parents hadn't died prematurely.

He praised the survey for measuring people's ability to function — such as being able to move a piece of furniture or keep track of expenses — signs that can be more telling than other health factors.

Dr. George Lange, a 57-year-old internist at Columbia-St. Mary's Hospital in Milwaukee, faulted the test for not measuring blood pressure or cholesterol. Lange got a healthy low score on the test, too, but he's overweight. He was surprised he didn't get points for that.

In fact, that's one of the most puzzling aspects of the test. People with a body-mass index of less than 25 — which includes normal weight people — get a point while those who are overweight aren't penalized.

Covinsky, one of the test designers, said that BMI measurement includes underweight people — those who have lost weight because of illness, a particularly disturbing sign for the elderly.

As to obesity, Lee noted there are more points for diabetes and for difficulty walking several blocks — both associated with excess weight.

The researchers think their mortality predictor might be a useful tool in the "pay for performance" trend that is part of the nation's health care system. Medicare and other insurers are increasingly basing reimbursement rates on how patients fare, said Covinsky.

"One health plan can look better just by cherry-picking health care patients" and accepting only the most robust patients, Covinsky said. This test could give a more accurate assessment of health plans, he said, so that "you can actually see which ones are taking sicker patients and compare that" when measuring performance.

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My Prediction: Everyone who is reading this will die.
1 posted on 02/14/2006 1:36:00 PM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9
Is there an on-line version?

I want to post it to the next Friday Silliness thread.
3 posted on 02/14/2006 1:37:41 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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What are your chances of dying within four years?

Depends if a democrat is in the White House.

4 posted on 02/14/2006 1:37:48 PM PST by Screamname (My name is Uninterested Kevin, monkey cousin of Curious George.)
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To: presidio9

Do I need to study for this test?


5 posted on 02/14/2006 1:37:50 PM PST by Feiny ("Muslims are the only people who make feminists seem laid-back." Ann Coulter)
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To: presidio9

We have a nearly 100% chance of dying in the future......


6 posted on 02/14/2006 1:38:04 PM PST by Red Badger (And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him...)
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To: presidio9

Bad title--EVERYONE has a 100% chance of dying.

It's the knowing WHEN that's tricky. ;-)


7 posted on 02/14/2006 1:38:46 PM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX)
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To: presidio9
I ain't buying this!
Last time I took a similar test the results was I'd been dead 6 years.
That was 4 years ago.

Nope. Ain't going there!

8 posted on 02/14/2006 1:40:06 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: presidio9

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!


9 posted on 02/14/2006 1:40:45 PM PST by arizonarachel
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To: Publius6961
As much as I despise Woody Allen, he had it right when he said: "I'm not afraid of dying, I just don't want to be there when it happens."

L

10 posted on 02/14/2006 1:41:19 PM PST by Lurker (In God I trust. Everybody else shows me their hands.)
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To: presidio9

Except for the vampires, of course.


11 posted on 02/14/2006 1:41:27 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: presidio9

Does it count if your hobbies are skydiving, extreme skiing and photographing skarks?


12 posted on 02/14/2006 1:41:50 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: presidio9


and/or pay some type of tax.


13 posted on 02/14/2006 1:42:11 PM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: presidio9

Yousa mean weesa gonna DIE?!

14 posted on 02/14/2006 1:44:55 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Cementjungle

Weeeellll.... it depends. What's a "skark"? Sean Penn?


15 posted on 02/14/2006 1:45:02 PM PST by Phil Connors
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To: presidio9

According to this study, I AM ALREADY DEAD !!!!!!


16 posted on 02/14/2006 1:49:01 PM PST by PetroniDE (We Don't Live in Texas Anymore --- State Name is Now TAXES !!)
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To: presidio9

Mine, anyone who rides shotgun with Ted Kennedy driving.


17 posted on 02/14/2006 1:50:16 PM PST by One Proud Dad
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To: Screamname

If a Dem is president, everyones' risk of an apoplectic fit increases astronomically.


18 posted on 02/14/2006 1:52:10 PM PST by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: presidio9

Does the test have questions like "Do you draw cartoons of Mohammed while riding in Ted Kennedy's car to a hunting trip with Dick Cheney?"


19 posted on 02/14/2006 1:52:30 PM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: presidio9

I cannot believe that this test predicts anything meaningful. It basically makes the point that if you suffer from a chronic, probably fatal illness you will die in the next 4 years. The survey has a large "duh" quotient.

My concern is that the guys who cam up with this test are working with our Vets.


20 posted on 02/14/2006 1:53:47 PM PST by bjc (Check the data!!)
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