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A Subversive Idea - The End of Race
Post Chronicle ^
| 2/13/06
| John Conlin
Posted on 02/14/2006 6:51:21 AM PST by John Conlin
What if many of the things you thought were true simply werent? Could you let go of your old beliefs? Would you? What if they struck at the core of some of your most basic concepts of self? In earlier times people have confronted this unnerving reality, generally as the scientific revolution rolled over their old ideas. We seem to think we are immune, that everything we know is the truth.
Thomas Kuhn, in his transforming The Structure of Scientific Revolutions argues that science is not a steady, cumulative acquisition of knowledge. Instead, science is a series of peaceful interludes punctuated by intellectually violent revolutions. After such revolutions, one conceptual world view is replaced by another. It is time for another revolution and this one involves the entire concept of race.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: race; racerelations; science; thomaskuhn
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The concept of black and white races is a historical artifact that should thrown in the dust bin of history.
To: John Conlin
Where can I get what you're smoking?
To: John Conlin
The concept of black and white races is a historical artifact that should thrown in the dust bin of history.
Perfectly said.. there are more genetic differences between individuals than there are the differences we define as 'race'. The entire concept of race is propogated by those who want control by sticking everyone in a box and blaming other 'races' for keeping them down.
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posted on
02/14/2006 6:54:41 AM PST
by
mnehring
(Perry 06- It's better than a hippie in a cowboy hat or a commie with blue hair.)
To: John Conlin
Hmmm... if there is no difference between blacks and whites, how come nearly every sport that uses speed, jumping ability and/or strength is disproportionately represented by blacks?
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posted on
02/14/2006 6:57:35 AM PST
by
bikepacker67
(Islam was born of Hagar the whore.)
To: John Conlin
The concept of black and white races is a historical artifact that should thrown in the dust bin of history. Race is as real as pressure or temperature. It is not a historical artifact. It emerges out of the observation that people can often be grouped together by their physical similarities.
There's even genetic support for the idea. Police have actually used DNA to identify both the victims and perpetrators of crime.
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posted on
02/14/2006 7:03:29 AM PST
by
mc6809e
To: mnehrling
there are more genetic differences between individuals than there are the differences we define as 'race'. These differences are quantitative not qualitative and therefore not useful to decide anything.
Researchers usually won't touch the question of measurable qualitive differences with a 10 foot pole. For good reason.
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posted on
02/14/2006 7:04:29 AM PST
by
sumocide
To: mnehrling
You are correct when you say there are larger differences genetically between individuals of a race versus another person of a different race. however there are consistent genetic markers that differ from race to race. Drug manufacturers are finding drugs that don't work on whites as well as on blacks. To say there is no difference is absurd. Ever see a dog thats never been exposed to a person of color react to them, they have a odor which is significantly different as well.
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posted on
02/14/2006 7:07:09 AM PST
by
rich2u
To: John Conlin
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posted on
02/14/2006 7:07:48 AM PST
by
bubman
To: John Conlin
As well, now that interracial marriage is the norm rather than the exception, preferences become harder and harder to administer. The ultimate in irony is that legal definitions of "black", "Hawaiian" etc., will have to be codified again in law. Think this is absurd? Look at the
legislation proposed to carve out a Hawaiian nation for those with 1/25th (great-grandparent) Hawaiian ancestry. (a bill that's pure Akaka :) ). What happens when a child with one black grandparent applies for an African-American scholarship and sues when told they aren't eligible? Race will always exist as a genetic identity but it will fade as a societal discriminator over time.
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posted on
02/14/2006 7:08:50 AM PST
by
NonValueAdded
("If I were a Cuban, I'd certainly be on a raft," Isane Aparicio Busto)
To: John Conlin
I find the argument presented in this article bothersome. It seems to stem from the "junk DNA" school of thought. I don't claim to understand junk DNA, but I am fairly certain that those who label is as JUNK don't understand it either. If they don't understand it, it must be junk.
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posted on
02/14/2006 7:09:48 AM PST
by
Fielding
(Sans Dieu Rien)
To: John Conlin
I agree with you in that there are no races. There is only one human race. However, there are ethnicities, and "sub-races", that have differing genetic traits and characteristics.
Human Race --> Sub-Race --> Ethnicities
I am half Scandinavian and half Irish. These are ethnicities belonging to the sub-races, of being Germanic and Celtic, which in turn are of the human race. Sub-races vary throughout the world, depending on where one is located, and where one's ancestors come from.
Ethnicities are commonly used in stereotypes, and as we know, stereotypes do have an element of truth to them. What would you think I look like if I told you I was Scandinavian? Short, dark skinned, and dark eyed? I don't think so. I don't like racists, and I don't believe any one group is better than the other, but I am simply comfortable with my own kind, as are most other people in this world. (Some people might view my opinion as being ethnocentric, I can assure you, it is not!)This is just my opinion on this matter.
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posted on
02/14/2006 7:11:37 AM PST
by
Theoden
(Fidei Defensor - Deus vult!)
To: bikepacker67
No true, look at international soccer...best teams are often German, French, Italian, Brazilian, Argentinian....
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posted on
02/14/2006 7:12:45 AM PST
by
Tulane
To: John Conlin
Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton deeply saddened.
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posted on
02/14/2006 7:15:29 AM PST
by
MEGoody
(Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
To: rich2u
I wonder if a dog who had never been around white people would react when exposed to one?
To: bikepacker67
Hmmm... if there is no difference between blacks and whites, how come nearly every sport that uses speed, jumping ability and/or strength is disproportionately represented by blacks? That may be true in this country (though not all sports- think hockey) it isn't true internationally.
There is a large cultural factor to why blacks in America are over-represented in sports. For good or bad, a high percentage of poorer black kids think that the only route out of poverty is sports (and entertainment, another area where black Americans are prominent).
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posted on
02/14/2006 7:16:58 AM PST
by
Potowmack
("The hardest thing in the world to understand is the income tax." - Albert Einstein)
To: Potowmack
Very true...look at all the Europeans/South Americans that are coming to the NBA and, dare I say, DOMINATING.
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posted on
02/14/2006 7:19:29 AM PST
by
Tulane
To: Potowmack
That may be true in this country (though not all sports- think hockey) it isn't true internationally. It certainly is in long distance running.
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posted on
02/14/2006 7:19:44 AM PST
by
bikepacker67
(Islam was born of Hagar the whore.)
To: John Conlin
To: bikepacker67
"Hmmm... if there is no difference between blacks and whites, how come nearly every sport that uses speed, jumping ability and/or strength is disproportionately represented by blacks?"
And why do blacks get sickle cell anemia and Jews get Tay Sachs?
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posted on
02/14/2006 7:21:14 AM PST
by
RedRightReturn
(Even a broken clock is right twice a day...)
To: bikepacker67
Hmmm... if there is no difference between blacks and whites, how come nearly every sport that uses speed, jumping ability and/or strength is disproportionately represented by blacks? Honkies still have hockey and lacrosse!
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