[tet68]

the creation of a homeland security department.

Shouldn't that be Department of Empire Security Department?

[vimto]

"Both ID cards and proposals for a new offense of "glorifying terrorism" will be debated this week, measures dubbed "ineffective authoritarianism" by the Tories."

The big problem here is that we have plenty of laws that can be used. the 90 day detention with judicial review would be useful.

The ID card isn't the problem it is Labours stupid idea of putting it all on some central database. Big Brother here we come.

In the meantime use the laws we have already to arrest and deport more often and with less apology.

We have to be very careful to get the balance right.

[vimto]

"Both ID cards and proposals for a new offense of "glorifying terrorism" will be debated this week, measures dubbed "ineffective authoritarianism" by the Tories."

The big problem here is that we have plenty of laws that can be used. the 90 day detention with judicial review would be useful.

The ID card isn't the problem it is Labours stupid idea of putting it all on some central database. Big Brother here we come.

In the meantime use the laws we have already to arrest and deport more often and with less apology.

We have to be very careful to get the balance right.

[Mears]

Trying to call "glorifying terrorism" an offense would be a pretty tough nut to crack, IMHO.

[Canard]

These ridiculous, ill-thought out proposals were already kicked out of Parliament once. What's the point of making an offence of 'gloryfying terrorism' (whatever the hell that means, it almost certainly can't be legally defined in any coherent manner) - we already have sufficient laws in place, yet it took the government seven years after the evidence had been gathered to secure the conviction of Abu Hamza.

Maybe Brown could put his effort into resolving those sorts of issues rather than resorting to cheap political grandstanding in an effort to prove he's the 'hardest' on terrorism.