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I feel the issue of illegal immigration is a lot like slavery. It [slavery] was simply ignored and not properly focused on for a long-time (in fact it was one of the few things that ensured the ratification of the Constitution). As time went by, the problem got more and more invested into the system, therefore there wasn't going to be a change. Any legal means to end slavery was found to be highly improprably, as it was far too expensive. Therefore isolation by federal means seemed like the most feasible method, which envitable was a factor in starting the civil war.

Those numbers in illegal immigration will be insuremountable at one point, just like slavery; and then they'll be no legal means to stop it. Most likely you'll see a vast amenesty, which will make the Mexican government officials very happy. This will create even bigger amount of illegal immigration (...the past has shown), as Mexican government officials know that the dominance of American--by illegals, is almost envitably the only way they can keep a float. Ironically , most people don't understand that it's the American culture that creates prosperity, and I don't know about you, but the Mexican/latin culture isn't do that well as it is. When will they learn that socialism doesn't work!? When will they learn that principled laws are morally good for everyone, rather than all for the family, nothing for principles?

Note: I think the average latin family is full of good people, whom practice their relgion, and live good lives; but the average american left their old countries bad ideas in their old country, and I expect that of everyone that comes to this country. If it didn't work there, it isn't going to work here. Respect our values and your more than welcome!

We need to get Congress to pass bills like H.R.815, which ensures that banks don't allow the use of matricula's for the use of bank services. We can not allow the banks to favor illegal immigration far too much or else we'll be battling far too many enemies--although it seems many do already. We need to take any form of long-term investment and flush that from their hands or else we're doomed to failure. Once we get that and a fence, we can focus on the nits and grids of all of this.

1 posted on 02/11/2006 2:11:52 AM PST by Rick_Michael
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"We need to get Congress to pass bills like H.R.815k.... Once we get that and a fence, we can focus on the nits and grids of all of this."

Strong Ditto/ Bttt

2 posted on 02/11/2006 2:17:06 AM PST by Sic Luceat Lux
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I prefer a moat filled with gators.


3 posted on 02/11/2006 2:21:48 AM PST by Beckwith (The liberal press has picked sides ... and they have sided with the Islamofascists)
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To: Rick_Michael
We need to get Congress to pass bills like H.R.815, which ensures that banks don't allow the use of matricula's for the use of bank services.

We're doing our best to get Congress to wake up.

Here's a bump to this thread.

4 posted on 02/11/2006 2:22:50 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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For "Thunder on the Border," click the picture:


7 posted on 02/11/2006 3:18:57 AM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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There are four people who have the power to directly stop the illegal invasion. They are the govenors of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California. Fat chance, they have no guts.


8 posted on 02/11/2006 3:28:10 AM PST by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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Just have a fine of $100,000 for each illegal found at a business.


11 posted on 02/11/2006 4:29:02 AM PST by KeyWest (Help stamp out taglines!)
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Illegal aliens, who have already broken our immigration laws by entering the country illegally can cash checks and open bank accounts. Yet there is nothing to assure that the cards carry accurate information and there is no means to check the background of the person holding the card. In practice, the consular cards are allowing illegal Mexicans to bypass the growing web of government control now being imposed on American citizens.

An outrage...

14 posted on 02/11/2006 4:41:38 AM PST by GOPJ (Iraq news-- http://www.michaelyon-online.com/)
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Hispanic illegals in the tens of millions all at once won't assimilate and 'become Americans'. They have their own culture, mores, work ethic, and Spanish, none of which they plan to give up. Some probably dream of returning to Mexico or wherever, when they've made their fortune, but few will do it. Instead, relatives arrive, whole villages arrive. They have that anchor baby asap, settle in and demand benefits.

When they get the vote, they'll fall for the same old socialist tune they sang in Mexico. Democrats back in power. Whoop de do, and the country goes down the drain. Meanwhile, in CA., a vanload of twenty plus illegals chased by the border patrol, crashes. Eight injured seriously, and guess who's paying for hospital care. Mexico should join up with the EU. They're both socialist, Mexicans would provide cheap labor and an influx Christians, and they'd outnumber the local Muslims. It'd be a match made in heaven.


18 posted on 02/11/2006 4:53:21 AM PST by hershey
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Vicente could easily solve his money problem by just printing American greenbacks. He could make all of his citizens rich by handing a million dollars American out to each of them. Then they wouldn't have to cross the border and risk the desert. They could stay home with their families, and he wouldn't take any heat for dumping his poor people into our country for jobs.

Illegal you say? Illegal as hell. But, of course, we wouldn't do anything about it for fear of pissing off Hispanic voters. I'm surprised he hasn't thought of this by now.

29 posted on 02/11/2006 6:04:26 AM PST by Hardastarboard (HEY - Billy Joe! You ARE an American Idiot!)
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"Specifically, the Mexican government is distributing to its citizens a colorful new comic book with advice on how to cross the border. The 32-page book, "The Guide for the Mexican Migrant," was published in December by Mexico’s Foreign Ministry. Using simple language and colorful drawings, the book offers safety information for illegal border crossings. The book also provides a primer on their legal rights once they get across, and gives advice on living unobtrusively in the United States."

Absolutely absurd.

44 posted on 02/11/2006 9:47:21 AM PST by TAdams8591
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BUMP for a later read


52 posted on 02/11/2006 4:01:32 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Tagline removed by Moderator)
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I think we need to build a tall brick wall from San Diego to Texas and every willing citizent can buy one brick or as many as they want and have their name on "their" brick!

I sure would be willing to buy a few bricks! Just tell me where to sign up! Our Government sure doesn't seem to want to get into action, so I guess it's our job to do so....

Just my thoughts..


54 posted on 02/11/2006 4:06:29 PM PST by Die_Hard Conservative Lady
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"Prior to the 9/11 terrorist attacks, President Bush and Fox agreed to consider granting permanent residency, 'green cards', to as many as three million Mexicans living illegally in the United States."

A little known and under-publicized fact.

Dubya Bush has ALWAYS been a Centrist.

55 posted on 02/11/2006 4:11:02 PM PST by F16Fighter
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