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To: Thunder90; Cacique
I hate Chavez, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.

LAS MALVINAS SON ARGENTINAS! Jeanne Kirkpatrick was right on this issue, and encouraged Reagan to stay out of the conflict. Unfotunatly, Anglophiles in the state department decided to kiss limey a-s.

Remember that the UK was about to give the islands back to Argentina, until shale deposits were discovered off the coast of the Malvinas/Falklands. Then the Tory backbenchers went Falklands-crazy, pushing Margaret Thatcher away from returning the islands to Argentina.

Let me remind you folks that, at the time, Argentina was the ONLY nation that truly was doing something successful about the communist guerrillas in their country.

33 posted on 02/10/2006 9:32:28 PM PST by Clemenza (I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked...)
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To: Clemenza

Were you part of the junta that took over Argentina and in a few short months invaded the Falklands?


40 posted on 02/10/2006 9:43:07 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: Clemenza

Sure- the "OIL" in Somalia, wait the pipeline in Afghanistan, oh no, I'm confused; we're talking about the oil in Iraq? The oil, oil, oil argument is dead- Find some other hidden imperialistic conspiracy theory.

Economically - the leading sector is offshore fishing, which in last 20 years has quickly grown into a substantial industry with a first catch value of approximately £200-300m. Tourism is fast growing and includes cruises (+35,000 visitors) and onshore segments and has huge potential. The agricultural sector (+580,000 sheep), like elsewhere in the world, faces pressing financial difficulties whilst seeking new, diversified sources of income to which “OIL” is not one of!

OIL-Shale-bla bla bla comprises near NOTHING of the economy, in fact, more than 20 years after the war “OIL” is not even significant enough to MENTION as an economic source of income for the islands <2%!

Besides some "HYPOTHETICAL" oil which is and will be to costly to explore (As in the US which we have the same situation) the Falklands really have no "OIL" besides in the minds of those who also said Vietnam was about Tin. But you probably can't remember that. I'm still trying to figure out what we were after in the Balkans? Rocks? Maybe they have big rocks we need? I heard we have a shortage of boulders! "No blood for boulders! get the US out of the Balkans!"


46 posted on 02/10/2006 10:04:12 PM PST by Red6
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To: Clemenza

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/fk.html#Econ

Show me one source that states oil is pumped. All you hear is "hypothetical", "It is believed"........ more than 20 years after the war, OIL is no part of their economy. Better yet, show me a viable oil exploration effort that is being planned? Please,…….

Tell me how many links you want to show you that “OIL” makes up LESS THAN 2% of their GDP? Show me ONE source that states otherwise. All you will find is the same crap they said about Afghanistan, Somalia, Iraq and everywhere else a US or British soldiers foot touches the ground. Personally I think we have “magic boots”. After all, as soon as they touch the ground the “OIL” just begins to bubble up from the ground.


53 posted on 02/10/2006 10:16:44 PM PST by Red6
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To: Clemenza

Our delivery of the AIM9L (all aspect) sidewinder, and sharing of Intel had a substantial impact on the British success in the Falklands.

We did this because GB is an allied nation with whom we are linked economically, culturally, militarily…….. They are even part of some of our most secret defense programs and have near unlimited access. They are part of Echelon (NSA), JSF project, the US is tied into BAE……….. Many Americans can directly trace their heritage back to GB. We are a former colony and are shaped by there laws, we speak English, our military has a similar rank structure……… The relationship with GB goes far beyond just having “mutual interests”. WWI, WWII only fastened this relationship. Out of those wars mutual intell and defense programs were borne that still exist today. A friendship formed that was, and in part still is, at the personal level. Many Americans were stationed in GB during the Cold War, where we again worked together. Many Brits have been to the US. There are student exchange programs etc. Don’t put the US in a situation where it has to choose between the UK and France. France too is theoretically an ally. But I’d put my money on that we’d help the Brits, as we did in the World Wars even BEFORE we were officially in those wars. The US has a special relationship with the UK.


67 posted on 02/10/2006 10:46:51 PM PST by Red6
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To: Clemenza

I hate Chavez, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.
LAS MALVINAS SON ARGENTINAS! Jeanne Kirkpatrick was right on this issue, and encouraged Reagan to stay out of the conflict. Unfotunatly, Anglophiles in the state department decided to kiss limey a-s.

Remember that the UK was about to give the islands back to Argentina, until shale deposits were discovered off the coast of the Malvinas/Falklands. Then the Tory backbenchers went Falklands-crazy, pushing Margaret Thatcher away from returning the islands to Argentina.

Let me remind you folks that, at the time, Argentina was the ONLY nation that truly was doing something successful about the communist guerrillas in their country.

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Extra-judicial killngs of Communists does not give you the right to invade the territory of another Soveriegn country, even if you are a right wing military Junta.


68 posted on 02/10/2006 10:50:13 PM PST by kingsurfer
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To: Clemenza
LAS MALVINAS SON ARGENTINAS! Jeanne Kirkpatrick was right on this issue, and encouraged Reagan to stay out of the conflict. Unfotunatly, Anglophiles in the state department decided to kiss limey a-s.

Unfortnately Kirkpatrick had to contend with the war-monger Reagan's obsession with "winning" the so-called Cold War against the Soviet People.

All Kirkpatrick had to as bargaininng chips was the good opinion of the UN and some tin-pot dictators. Maggie Thatcher had Greenham Common and the USAFE bases in Eastern England.

70 posted on 02/10/2006 11:29:33 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Science can be wrong for decades. The Bible is wrong forever)
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To: Clemenza
Just why are the Falklands Argentine? Because they are closer to Argentina than to Great Britain? If that's the case, we should take Bermuda.

What about the people who actually live there? They don't speak Spanish and in fact are mostly English. They want nothing to do with Argentina.

78 posted on 02/11/2006 1:36:45 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Clemenza

"LAS MALVINAS SON ARGENTINAS!"



Bullfeathers. The UK owns the Falklands lock, stock, and barrel, and has since 1833. But if you want to argue that ancient titles to property should not be binding in 2006, then let's let the residents of the Falklands vote on it; I would bet you that the percentage of Falklanders who would vote to have the islands become part of Argentina would be less than 5%.

BTW, Venezuela has long claimed the western half of Guyana (formerly British Guiana) as its own, and the theory under which British 19th century claims to the Falklands were "illegitimate" would also hold that British claims over the western part of British Guiana (also claimed by Venezuela) were similarly "illegitimate," so Chavez knows that getting an international tribunal to rule in favor of the Argentines (if the Brits were dumb enough to agree to arbitration) would give him all the excuse he needs to take half of Guyana.


87 posted on 02/11/2006 10:28:42 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: Clemenza; Thunder90; Cacique

<< I hate Chavez, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. >>

Hate away, you're on a right track, there. But on this subject Chavez ain't no stopped clock and is as wrong around the clock as he is on every other topic.

Britain has effectively owned its Faulklands since the mid 1500s, more than 250 years before there was an Argentine. And, not that there's any effective doubt about that, Britain has absolutely owned them since 1690, 126 years before the Spanish lost control to its colonialists of the place they then and now call the Argentine.

The johnny-come-lately Argentines have no more claim to Britain's Faulkland Islands than they have to its Isle of Wight.

Or to New York's Coney Island. Or California's Catalina.


92 posted on 02/11/2006 11:39:41 AM PST by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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