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If Nominated, Hillary Clinton "A Certain Loser" in 2008, Opines Prof. Ken Bode
DePauw University News ^ | Feburary 10, 2006 | Prof. Ken Bode

Posted on 02/10/2006 4:00:21 PM PST by yoe

February 10, 2006, Greencastle, Ind. - "Hillary has become sui generis, now as much a celebrity as a politician," writes Ken Bode of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. Writing in today's Indianapolis Star, DePauw's Eugene S. Pulliam Distinguished Visiting Professor of Journalism states, "in the opinion of those who set the opening odds for the 2008 Democratic nomination, she is definitely the frontrunner. Sen. Clinton is sure to win easy re-election in November. She is the best-heeled contender, with a savvy, loyal staff and Bill as resident braintruster. That's not a bad start. But the other part of the opening line on Hillary is this: If the Democrats nominate her, she is a certain loser. You hear this even from those who like Hillary, or want to."

Bode, former senior political analyst for CNN, contines, "The 'can't win' argument has footing because the 2008 election will not be decided on personality or competence, or experience. It will be decided on geography. The common sense derived from that fact works against Hillary. First, the Democrats must give up their post-Bill Clinton fantasy of winning in the South... The critical battleground for 2008 is the eight states of the Midwest. Some big states, some swing states. In 2004, four went for Bush, four for Kerry. Five were squeakers with margins of 1 to 3 percent. This is where the 2008 race will be decided and there is no reason to believe that nominating Hillary will add a single state to the Democratic column."

The professor believes other Democrats -- namely Russ Feingold of Wisconsin, Tom Vilsack of Iowa and Evan Bayh of Indiana [this spring's commencement speaker at DePauw] -- would run stronger in those key states.

Bode also believes that Sen. Clinton has "been so busy grabbing opportunities to establish herself as a centrist that she's losing the support of important voices who might have been expected to argue that she deserves a chance... Writing on the current Republican spin characterizing Hillary as an angry harpy, Maureen Dowd says: 'Hillary's problem is not that she's angry. It's that she's not angry enough. From Iraq to Katrina and the assault on the Constitution, from Schiavo to Alito and NSA snooping, Hillary has failed to take the lead in voicing her party's outrage... The Republicans can't marginalize Hillary. She has already marginalized herself.'"

In conclusion, Bode writes, "If you're tempted to bet that Hillary will be the Democratic nominee, let alone the next president, you should leave your money in your other pants."


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barrettreport; cantwin; hillary; hillary2008; kenbode; losers; mrsbillclinton
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To: okie01
" If, by some device, he becomes a threat to her, the MSM possesses ample ammunition to destroy him. "

After the massive, unrelenting, and constant POSITIVE PR that the MSM have given McCain, it will be totally impossible for the MSM to accomplish a 180 in that length of time.

81 posted on 02/11/2006 12:50:14 AM PST by de Buillion (The French have always been there when they needed us.)
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To: Zack Nguyen

I think Hillary has to have McCain as her opponent. Lets face facts...given a choice of the two...most Republicans will stay home and not vote. She can carry two or three of the southern states because of this...and gives her enough electoral votes to win. Its a stupid method of getting elected...but when you look at how Lincoln won the 1860 election...Hillary could use the same method and use McCain as her stepping stone.


82 posted on 02/11/2006 12:57:51 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Revolting cat!
"If you're tempted to bet that Hillary will be the Democratic nominee, let alone the next president, you should leave your money in your other pants."

That would be a problem for Mz Hitlery herself, since she owns only one pair!

Ouch!

83 posted on 02/11/2006 1:12:44 AM PST by gop_gene
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To: popdonnelly
McCain polls better than anyone else. But, I guess beating Hillary isn't that important.

The polls are fake...

84 posted on 02/11/2006 1:31:01 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: varon

Any Republican bases their vote on Hillary Clinton as the be all, end all in presidential politics has already conceded defeat - - especially if they take advice from the fake leftist media polls.



85 posted on 02/11/2006 1:38:05 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

All I can say is, Heil Hillary! ;>


86 posted on 02/11/2006 3:53:54 AM PST by JedForbes
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To: yoe
Ken is as sharp as oatmeal. If he's saying it, it's way over for Hillary.

The real problem is that she's the most beatable opponent, assuming that McCain is not the candidate of course.

87 posted on 02/11/2006 4:23:48 AM PST by Thebaddog (Dog can like cats who are cool)
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To: Zack Nguyen

McCain is older than Reagan was...I do not think he can win.


88 posted on 02/11/2006 4:28:18 AM PST by bronxboy
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To: GeorgeW23225

Nonsense, McCain has too much baggage. As soon as McCain is the nominee the media will unleash an attack-probably more vicious than the ones leveled against Bush. There is more amunition. He will be 'scary'-quite a temper don't you know. Did you know that McCain was on of the Keeting Cheaters? McCain is old; his health is suspect. His wife is crazy and a drug addict. McCain is one of those 'damaged' Vietnam vets-not presidential material. This will be only the beginning. Combine this with the absolute dislike the Christain community has for McCain, and you have an a candidate who can not win.


89 posted on 02/11/2006 4:32:58 AM PST by bronxboy
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Absolutely, the media believes McCain can be defeated just as they did in 2000. I believe it also.


90 posted on 02/11/2006 4:34:41 AM PST by bronxboy
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To: de Buillion

I think we are pretty sure that Senator of New York has never been what inspires Hillary.


91 posted on 02/11/2006 4:50:30 AM PST by Toespi
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To: yoe
Nomination or not, Hillary will always be "A certain loser" in my heart.
92 posted on 02/11/2006 5:21:14 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

I caught McCain on SNL last night and hit the remote after 5 seconds. What's worse? McCain pandering to the left for votes or McCain getting the nomination. I can't make up my mind.


93 posted on 02/11/2006 6:02:16 AM PST by hershey
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To: JedForbes
All I can say is, Heil Hillary! ;>

So, what are you saying?

1. You're a mindless manipulated sheep of the leftist media who cannot think for yourself and believe everything they feed you (including their fake polls)?

2. You actually want Hillary Clintong or some 'rat as president?

3. You are a Democrat propogandist trying to scare the Republicans into putting up their preferred opponent for the presidential election?

4. You are a leftist mole attempting to destroy the Republican party as an enemy within?

There are other possibilities, but the above four are generally applicable to them all, as none of those RINOs and liberals the media is trying to hype are a dimes worth of difference apart.

94 posted on 02/11/2006 6:16:48 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: yoe

I have a real good feeling about the quality of the next Republican nominee for President (we have a very deep bench), and since I know the democrats will nominate either Hillary or some old idiot war vet to prove they are strong on defense, I know we are going to win. Especially if Bush declares victory before then in Iraq, brings the troops home, and has parades for them in every major city in America.


95 posted on 02/11/2006 6:37:10 AM PST by conservative physics
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

You are right. The dems could run a pig(I don't mean Hillary)against McPain and they would win.


96 posted on 02/11/2006 6:55:52 AM PST by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: conservative physics
Well Posters All, if the redacted portions of the Barrett Report are ever released, Ms. Clinton won't win her senate seat back either.

(Barrett Report and redacted pages)

6. [REDACTED PURSUANT TO 11/4/05 SPECIAL DIVISION ORDER ("COURT ORDER")]

7. [REDACTED PURSUANT TO COURT ORDER]

8. [REDACTED PURSUANT TO COURT ORDER]

9. [REDACTED PURSUANT TO COURT ORDER]

Still covering up for the Clinton Crimes!!

97 posted on 02/11/2006 7:05:40 AM PST by yoe
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To: GeorgeW23225
The implication is that "if" McCain gets through the GOP primaries, that there will be no one or no thing that can stop him from becomming President. The poster is correct.

Ah, thank you. I don't know if I agree with that or not. Possibly it is true, but we'll have to see whether a lot of conservatives would stay home.

98 posted on 02/11/2006 8:37:19 AM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: bronxboy

You don't have to convert or convince me.
I am NOT a McCain supporter. Did you actually read my post??


99 posted on 02/11/2006 9:47:09 AM PST by GeorgeW23225 ("Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal")
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To: GSlob

McCain will never get my vote. I don't care who he is running against. He is totally undependable and all too willing to do whatever the NYT and CNN thinks is in our best interests. No way. No how. End of discussion.


100 posted on 02/11/2006 9:47:44 AM PST by Tall_Texan (Hey Libs! - Remember how conservatives looked during Clinton? Guess what you haters look like now?)
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