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If Nominated, Hillary Clinton "A Certain Loser" in 2008, Opines Prof. Ken Bode
DePauw University News ^ | Feburary 10, 2006 | Prof. Ken Bode

Posted on 02/10/2006 4:00:21 PM PST by yoe

February 10, 2006, Greencastle, Ind. - "Hillary has become sui generis, now as much a celebrity as a politician," writes Ken Bode of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. Writing in today's Indianapolis Star, DePauw's Eugene S. Pulliam Distinguished Visiting Professor of Journalism states, "in the opinion of those who set the opening odds for the 2008 Democratic nomination, she is definitely the frontrunner. Sen. Clinton is sure to win easy re-election in November. She is the best-heeled contender, with a savvy, loyal staff and Bill as resident braintruster. That's not a bad start. But the other part of the opening line on Hillary is this: If the Democrats nominate her, she is a certain loser. You hear this even from those who like Hillary, or want to."

Bode, former senior political analyst for CNN, contines, "The 'can't win' argument has footing because the 2008 election will not be decided on personality or competence, or experience. It will be decided on geography. The common sense derived from that fact works against Hillary. First, the Democrats must give up their post-Bill Clinton fantasy of winning in the South... The critical battleground for 2008 is the eight states of the Midwest. Some big states, some swing states. In 2004, four went for Bush, four for Kerry. Five were squeakers with margins of 1 to 3 percent. This is where the 2008 race will be decided and there is no reason to believe that nominating Hillary will add a single state to the Democratic column."

The professor believes other Democrats -- namely Russ Feingold of Wisconsin, Tom Vilsack of Iowa and Evan Bayh of Indiana [this spring's commencement speaker at DePauw] -- would run stronger in those key states.

Bode also believes that Sen. Clinton has "been so busy grabbing opportunities to establish herself as a centrist that she's losing the support of important voices who might have been expected to argue that she deserves a chance... Writing on the current Republican spin characterizing Hillary as an angry harpy, Maureen Dowd says: 'Hillary's problem is not that she's angry. It's that she's not angry enough. From Iraq to Katrina and the assault on the Constitution, from Schiavo to Alito and NSA snooping, Hillary has failed to take the lead in voicing her party's outrage... The Republicans can't marginalize Hillary. She has already marginalized herself.'"

In conclusion, Bode writes, "If you're tempted to bet that Hillary will be the Democratic nominee, let alone the next president, you should leave your money in your other pants."


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barrettreport; cantwin; hillary; hillary2008; kenbode; losers; mrsbillclinton
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To: yoe

What really bothers me is the lingering suspicion that any election that uses networked voting machines is only a hack away from belonging to the highest bidder.


41 posted on 02/10/2006 5:18:02 PM PST by OldEagle (May you live long enough to hear the legends of your own adventures.)
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To: popdonnelly
I think Hillary's a lock to get the nomination. She's got plenty of money, and a crowded field probably works to her advantage.

If your statement is accurate, then John Mcain WILL be the next POTUS.

42 posted on 02/10/2006 5:20:59 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: xzins
I will never vote for John McCain in a primary until he repudiates CFR. Period.

I would possibly vote for McCain if I experienced seeing him just once with unclenched teeth when he talked. ; )

43 posted on 02/10/2006 5:24:34 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: yoe

The current Republican spin characterizing Hillary as an angry harpy.

Angry harpy? Hmm, an apt description I would say.


44 posted on 02/10/2006 5:34:57 PM PST by sasportas
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To: Zack Nguyen

Read post #2 carefully.

The implication is that "if" McCain gets through the GOP primaries, that there will be no one or no thing that can stop him from becomming President. The poster is correct.


45 posted on 02/10/2006 5:35:06 PM PST by GeorgeW23225 ("Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal")
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To: yoe

I disagree with the headline. Hillary is not ONLY a loser in 2008, she was a loser in 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, etc, etc, etc. Do you catch my drift??


46 posted on 02/10/2006 5:37:49 PM PST by GeorgeW23225 ("Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal")
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To: GeorgeW23225

The poster is incorrect.

Democrats will vote Democrat.

Republicans will vote Republican.

That leaves conservatives and "independents" undecided.

I wager conservatives abandon McCain has they did 41 in '92.

That leaves Independents.

Does McCain have what it takes to win Independents on his own?

He won't have conservatives walking those precincts, and conservatives by far are the most active in getting out the vote. Infact he'll have a number of conservatives like myself working against him.

He won't have the media, the media will officially abandon him.

They'll destroy him and ride the D to victory because without the opposition of conservatives, the MSM message wins.

If this base is suicidal, they elect McCain. A man that wants to destroy the conservative movement, seeks world opinion above our safety, wishes to control every aspect of American life from free speech to baseball, and a man with enough skeletons for the MSM to never run out of material. Not to mention the short fuse that will make Howie's scream seem tame when they push the right button at the right time.


47 posted on 02/10/2006 5:42:03 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: yoe
Maureen Dowd says: 'Hillary's problem is not that she's angry. It's that she's not angry enough.

Oh, my. You betcha, MoDo. Please, please convince Hillary! that she needs to unleash her inner rage for all the unwashed masses to see. That'll work. Trust me. :)

48 posted on 02/10/2006 5:44:57 PM PST by FlyVet (Our corrupt politicians are better than their corrupt politicians.)
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To: yoe

The current Republican spin characterizing Hillary as an angry harpy.

Angry harpy? Now what Republican would characterize her like that? An apt description I would say.


49 posted on 02/10/2006 5:45:42 PM PST by sasportas
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To: Uncle Hal
Your Wrong. Nothing could possibly be worse than Hillary as President. I am no fan of McCain, but I would take him any day over Hillary.

Agreed. Heck, I'd even vote for Putin if it would keep Hillary out of the White House ;-)

50 posted on 02/10/2006 5:56:17 PM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: Soul Seeker
I disagree. The poster is correct, whether you or I like it.

The key word is "if" he gets through the GOP Primaries. I don't believe he will. Thus, any further discussion is negated.

However, if he does, he will be the next President. Independents, moderates and blue collar DemocRATS will provide a tidal wave of victory for him, ESPECIALLY if the democRATS nominate FRau Hillary. And he will STILL be the darling of the MSM.

Don't get me wrong. I lived in Arizona, and he was my Senator. I think he is creepy to say the least. I also enjoyed voting AGAINST him in the Arizona GOP primary in 2000. I voted for George W. Bush. I was proud of my vote then, and I'm still proud of my vote !!

The bottom line: Don't underestimate his appeal with the middle of the road masses (or is that "asses"???) :-)
51 posted on 02/10/2006 6:00:23 PM PST by GeorgeW23225 ("Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal")
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To: Soul Seeker
I forgot something.............

If for some reason, the democRATS suicidally nominate Frau Hillary, even I will vote for McCain.

Absolutely, positively NOTHING could be worse than Hilly and Billy back in the White House.

My guess is that millions and millions of Americans feel the same. They will vote for whoever the GOP nominates against Frau Hillary. And it will be the largest landslide since 1964........
52 posted on 02/10/2006 6:08:58 PM PST by GeorgeW23225 ("Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal")
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To: varon

I totally agree. I will vote for ANYONE to prevent Hilly and Billy from EVER getting back in the White House. And, I'll bet that millions and millions of Americans feel the same way. Enough, in fact, to make Hillary lose by the largest landslide since 1964.

You can take that to the bank!!


53 posted on 02/10/2006 6:12:58 PM PST by GeorgeW23225 ("Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal")
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To: varon

Vote for Putin or Hillary?

Hmmm, got to think about this one, but got to admit, that Putin, KGB boss, Marxist, is probably the more conservative, reasonable, sensible of the two.


54 posted on 02/10/2006 6:27:39 PM PST by OldArmy52 (Democrats: Protecting terrorists from Americans.)
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To: GeorgeW23225
The bottom line: Don't underestimate his appeal with the middle of the road masses (or is that "asses"???) :-)

Mcinsane will lose......too many will stay home if this maniac is endorsed.......

55 posted on 02/10/2006 6:44:02 PM PST by Decepticon (The sheep pretend the wolf will never come, but the sheepdog lives for that day (NRA)
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To: Decepticon

No one will stay at home if Hillary is the nominee.

They will turn out in record numbers to vote against her!!


56 posted on 02/10/2006 6:52:58 PM PST by GeorgeW23225 ("Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal")
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To: GeorgeW23225
I'm going to be so disappointed if Hillary doesn't get the nomination. We'll shut her completely down.

Run Hillary...Run!

sw

57 posted on 02/10/2006 6:54:29 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: spectre
I agree. But, a part of me says: What if???....After all, the democRATS know how to get out the dead vote, and stuff those ballot boxes with fraudulent votes. Can we REALLY take a chance??
58 posted on 02/10/2006 7:02:18 PM PST by GeorgeW23225 ("Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal")
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To: etradervic

Sui Generis,lol


59 posted on 02/10/2006 7:06:06 PM PST by dmcnash (eieio)
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To: GeorgeW23225
They will turn out in record numbers to vote against her!!

FRiend, I understand your point....but frankly I would rather have the dems lead this country to hell before a nut case "republican" like mccain does the exact same thing. Mccain is toast, the only people pulling for this nut job are those that would like to see a democrat majority......I'll stay home. You vote as you wish.....

60 posted on 02/10/2006 7:10:41 PM PST by Decepticon (The sheep pretend the wolf will never come, but the sheepdog lives for that day (NRA)
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