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To: LK44-40

...I am stunned at the number of people in this thread siding with the aggressive (predatory) outreach of the faggot "community."

I don't think people agree with this outreach but I just think the kid was a bit messed up before this class. I called the parents idiots because I cannot believe for one second that they did not know the kid was taking the class. When I was in school, the school sent home a list of all the classes that I was taking so I know parents are not involved, but come on this is a bit of a stretch. I absolutely do not believe that the school should even have this seminar.


171 posted on 02/10/2006 9:09:54 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator
I don't think people agree with this outreach but I just think the kid was a bit messed up before this class.

But that isn't the point, is it?

The point is, the class was designed to mess him up further -- and to make sure he got messed up, and stayed that way. The point is the bad intentions of the people who designed, introduced, and instructed the class.

I called the parents idiots because I cannot believe for one second that they did not know the kid was taking the class.

There was a big flap in Ohio about seven years ago when it turned out that inappropriate material was being taught in Ohio public schools. SIECUS and the Centers for Disease Control at Emory University (in Atlanta) had collaborated with homosexual advocacy groups to put together a sex-education course that, among other things, addressed AIDS propagation (SIECUS and CDC's brief) but also brought in values-teaching from the gay community which included totally inappropriate material on homosexual practices, including class-participation in putting condoms on dildoes, discussions of the social regressiveness of certain faith-based points of view about sexual deviancy, and other highly-charged topics.

The point here is that these courses were organized, and teaching cadre selected and trained, in secret, with only a very few (liberal) people on the state board of education being aware of what was going on. The cadre's instruction included techniques for "Delphi-ing" the dialogue, and slapping down with frankly polemical techniques any objections by either students or parents to the material being put out.

It was a major stink, and the state board withdrew much of the material after public comment -- after using control of procedure (the chairwoman was in on the cabal) to prevent dissenting board members from lodging substantive protests and distributing supporting documentation for their own POV.

178 posted on 02/10/2006 9:46:17 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: napscoordinator
I do agree that the kid's taking this class -- presumably voluntarily -- indicates that he had some issues bubbling up. So much the worse that the school supplied the stimulus to explode his confusion into a full-blown sexual identity crisis. I am sure with you on the notion that the school should [not] even have this seminar.

I don't share your confidence that the parents knew what was going on. I've been out of school a long time and am not much in touch with current practices. My schools never communicated -- except with progress reports -- what classes I took. And I would not be surprised if an elite school like this with older kids would aggressively assert the child's autonomy in "exploring" challenging areas of interest. This is not the same, anyway, as selecting your regular H.S. curriculum. Just my thoughts, though; I certainly don't know.

181 posted on 02/10/2006 9:54:22 AM PST by LK44-40
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