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Fear of ACLU lawsuits force Scouts to scrap troop charters
The Macomb Daily ^ | February 9, 2006 | Chad Halcom

Posted on 02/09/2006 5:19:54 PM PST by Jay777

Troops of Boy Scouts in Macomb County and around the country are scuttling their organizational charter agreements with local governments, fearing legal action from the American Civil Liberties Union for requiring allegiance to God.

An official at the Boy Scouts of America’s regional Clinton Valley Council, which oversees most Scout troops in Macomb and Oakland counties, confirmed this week the group is directing dozens of local packs and troops to seek out new charter agreements in the private sector rather than with government bodies because of fears of possible litigation.

“This will allow us to focus our resources on the children and to continue helping them take part in activities and learn skills, rather than worry about lawsuits and defending the organizations that work with us,” said Kevin Nichols, a supervisor of charter organization and registration matters for the Clinton Valley Council of the Scouts in Waterford.

This pledge, along with any other required acknowledgment of God, poses a government endorsement or sanction of religion violating the Establishment clause of the U.S. Constitution — at least whenever it involves a Scout troop in a charter agreement with a government body, the ACLU has contended in recent litigation.

“There wasn’t really litigation threatened. We sent them (the Scouts) a letter saying that we’d noticed the number of these arrangements with government agencies and we were concerned,” said Ed Yohnka, a spokesman for the ACLU of Illinois where the controversy first originated. “And they’ve responded by informing us they will go ahead and alter those arrangements on their own.”

(Excerpt) Read more at macombdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: aclu; boyscouts; bsa; godisgood; intimidation; lawsuit; moralabsolutes; supportbsa
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1 posted on 02/09/2006 5:19:55 PM PST by Jay777
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2 posted on 02/09/2006 5:21:39 PM PST by Jay777 (My personal blog: www.stoptheaclu.com)
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To: Jay777

ACLU is scum! A pox on them!


3 posted on 02/09/2006 5:23:33 PM PST by MarineBrat (Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand.)
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To: Jay777
"...Clinton Valley Council"

Well, there's part of yer trouble.

4 posted on 02/09/2006 5:24:52 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (Criticize me if you will, but just don't circumsize me any more. -Kinky Friedman)
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To: Jay777

Sad.


5 posted on 02/09/2006 5:26:31 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: RonF; AppauledAtAppeasementConservat; Da Jerdge; Looking for Diogenes; Congressman Billybob; ...

Scout PING


6 posted on 02/09/2006 5:26:51 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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"Stop the ACLU" INDEED! I would hate to see the Boy Scouts of America back down to this Communist organisation!
Go to court, BSA, I think you'd be amazed how many loyal Americans would contribute to your cause.


7 posted on 02/09/2006 5:27:11 PM PST by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: Jay777

What did Americans ever do to deserve the ACLU?


8 posted on 02/09/2006 5:27:24 PM PST by Ronin (When the fox gnaws.... SMILE!!!)
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To: Jay777
Haven't seen a single ACLU lawyer take up the repressed Dane cartoonists. They, however, can intimidate Boy Scouts and Troop leaders.....I'm SOOOO impressed.

Screw them.......

9 posted on 02/09/2006 5:28:06 PM PST by Decepticon (The sheep pretend the wolf will never come, but the sheepdog lives for that day (NRA)
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To: Jay777

This Infuriates me Just why hasn't the government clamped down on these Commies.


10 posted on 02/09/2006 5:30:54 PM PST by Steveone (Liberalism is a brain tumor!)
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Haven't seen a single ACLU lawyer take up the repressed Dane cartoonists. They, however, can intimidate Boy Scouts and Troop leaders..... I'm SOOOO impressed.

Hey, I'm sure the ACLU has hired extra staff in fighting Communist
China (AND GOOGLE) over the "right to privacy" on the Internet!

And demanding universities divest themselves of Google stock.

(thus ends my latest screed against the weasels of the ACLU)
11 posted on 02/09/2006 5:32:46 PM PST by VOA
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To: Jay777

I think this has been going on for a couple of years. I think it was about 3 years ago the charter for our local scouts changed from the township to the local Catholic parish. We're in the Philly suburbs.


12 posted on 02/09/2006 5:34:26 PM PST by old and tired (Run Swannie, run!)
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To: Steveone

Good question. And I don't see the attorneys on the right fighting and winning - or even fighting much.


13 posted on 02/09/2006 5:36:33 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Jay777

"I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the properties class, and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal."

-- Roger Baldwin, leftist, anarchist, and Communist, was born in Wellesley MA and co-founded the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).

"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."

-- Norman Thomas, Socialist Party Presidential Candidate in 1940, 1944 and 1948, co-founder of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).

"We can't expect the American people to jump from capitalism to communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have communism."
-- Nikita Kruschev, former Soviet Premier/dictator.


14 posted on 02/09/2006 5:42:15 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (There's nothing "Mainstream" about the Orwellian Media!!!)
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To: Paperdoll

I would contribute to the Boy Scouts against the ACLU and do so gladly!


15 posted on 02/09/2006 5:42:57 PM PST by maxwellp
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To: Jay777

Why would anyone give money to the ACLU? Can't imagine.


We need to repeal this law that allows them to recover their attorneys' fees.


16 posted on 02/09/2006 6:15:14 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Jay777

17 posted on 02/09/2006 6:37:43 PM PST by concretebob (We should give anarchists what they want. Then we can kill them and not worry about jail-time.)
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To: concretebob

ALCU -----> STFU


18 posted on 02/09/2006 6:39:00 PM PST by mbx1231
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To: sageb1

This is sad .


19 posted on 02/09/2006 6:40:36 PM PST by Steveone (Liberalism is a brain tumor!)
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To: Jay777
There wasn’t really litigation threatened

Cute. Real cute.

20 posted on 02/09/2006 7:27:35 PM PST by RonF
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