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Well, in order to understand this phenomenon of 'not hearing moderate Islam', you might want to take for example that group 'CAIR' that plays as "moderate Muslims voice in America", that we all know how "moderate" exactly they are, starting from their support for the Hamas butchers or their call for 'Islam is not in America to be equal to other religions, but to DOMINATE over others.'

More, at:
Anti-CAIR * Defending America from The Council on American-Islamic Relations http://www.anti-cair-net.org/

Meaning that when CAIR is now issuing a "condemnation of the violence" over the cartoon bloody Jihad:
A.) We do not "hear" them.
B.) Their words are accepted by their masses as "propaganda to the west", because "CAIR" and the like are 'just like us' would the radical violent or "normal" violent Muslim say.
C.) They have managed to create a notion in many chunks of American society -- left or right-- that maybe 'there is no such a thing as a real moderate Muslim'.

Weather it's CAIR or it's that typical 'moderate' Muslim that condemns Islamic Jihad butchery with the added "but, but" --in as much as Americans are so peace loving and tolerant people-- have been proving that the problem is in their mainstream, or how many normal Americans have put it: "The problem with Islam is Islam".

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1 posted on 02/09/2006 11:24:02 AM PST by Actuality
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“Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.”

This was the sentiment of Omar M. Ahmad, the Chairman of the Board of the Council on American-Islamic Relations or CAIR, as told at an Islamic conference held in Freemont, California, in July of 1998.


2 posted on 02/09/2006 11:28:00 AM PST by Beckwith (The liberal press has picked sides ... and they have sided with the Islamofascists)
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Dominating at Ground Zero the other day.
5 posted on 02/09/2006 11:36:03 AM PST by Eastbound
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"The problem with Islam is Islam".

For years I've thought the problem with Islam is the Koran, but I'll go with Islam as just another of its many bad influences.

That Islam is fundamentally Satanic is also a bit of a problem.

6 posted on 02/09/2006 11:37:22 AM PST by angkor
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Fred Barnes statement nails it:

"It tells us a lot it tells us our enemy is not just al-Qaeda. That there's Muslims all over the world are certainly enemies of western civilization. Look at what the showing of these cartoons which I originally thought was a mistake. They shouldn't have run them. Now I think we've learned a lot from this. We see Muslims contempt for democracy, for freedom of speech, for freedom of the press and particularly for freedom of religion…"

I'm hoping that other Westerners are taking notice and see this as a learning experience of who our enemy is. It's showing the insanity that these people are capable of being driven to by their immans. Their religion is a death cult!
8 posted on 02/09/2006 11:39:28 AM PST by rochester_veteran (born and raised in rachacha!)
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And frankly, I’m not all that wowed with the reaction of moderate Muslims. I’m not sure how much further I want to stick my neck out defending a faith community that won’t loudly and firmly police or rebuke its own members.

Describes my position exactly. At this point I think it's too late for "moderate" Moslems to take back their religion from the violent and militant.

I used to think that the moderates had the numbers and the radicals had the money - I can now only vouch for the latter, which they certainly do. This whole affair is neither spontaneous nor grass-roots, and just as worrisome as the ability of the senior doctors of Islam to proliferate this violence is their will to do so. Osama bin Laden couldn't force the mass of Moslems to declare war on the West but these men can. And the confrontation will take place in Europe under the ancient terms of submit or fight. This is madness.

13 posted on 02/09/2006 11:59:58 AM PST by Billthedrill
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Radical Islam is an insane murder cult; moderate Islam is its Trojan Horse in the West.
14 posted on 02/09/2006 12:03:07 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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I think it's time for another crusade....these fanatic barbarians need to be stopped...DEAD


15 posted on 02/09/2006 12:03:48 PM PST by democratsaremyenemy
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there's only one religion in the world where people assume that people coming out of services on Friday afternoon are going to riot and kill, where people associate religious celebrations with violence.

My b-i-l says much the same thing. When your Christian neighbors go away on retreat, you don't have to worry that their 'getting religion' might be a threat to you; not so, possibly, with your Muslim neighbors.

17 posted on 02/09/2006 12:36:18 PM PST by SuziQ
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First, there's this:

Islam, The Alleged Religion of Peace® ( TARP™ )? Click this picture:

No, I am not exaggerating. Click the pic, go to "last," and read backwards.
If you are not informed about this stuff, you will be made sick. If you are informed, you will be made mad, all over again.

Then, there is this little matter still on the books, waiting to be settled. The account is still open:

Where It's 9-11 All the Time...Click the picture...


21 posted on 02/09/2006 1:25:32 PM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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Since the Islamists have declaired a boycott on Danish products, let us go out of our way to buy them. Danes make good ham and cheese. What other products are out there?

What good has Islam done. Nothing lately, but when Europe was in the Dark Ages and the Alexandria Library had burned, they did save much of what we have today of Greek and Roman literature and learning. Unfortunately they also had an idiot general who when asked about saving western writing, said to burn it as everything one needed to know was in the Koran. They did not have the Renaissance or Enlightenment, and they are 100 years behind us in using their woman power. They will be a long time catching up, if ever. When Iraq fell, their extremists even burned their own great repository of Islamic learning, so their distress over cartoons is utter hypocrisy.


23 posted on 02/09/2006 1:50:36 PM PST by gleeaikin (Question Authority)
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These people protesting are the now grown children we have seen bobbing up and down in the madrassas, being indoctrinated with hatred and lies since birth. They really believe that s@#$, and the sooner we start taking them seriously, the better off the world will be.


25 posted on 02/09/2006 2:27:08 PM PST by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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There's no way to turn the Islamic ship. There is no Islamic Pope, there is no universally-respected Islamic king. The closest thing to a leader that reasonable Muslims can turn to for unity and support is . . . George W. Bush.


27 posted on 02/09/2006 2:33:43 PM PST by AmishDude
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A lot of us have been "canaries in the coal mine" for a few years now.

We predicted the clintoon china fundrasing thing, and then predicted the middle east thing.

Oh well.

WWIV started a while ago. It is just hard to see when it is in your face. But it HAS started.

It is only a matter of time that the Islamists gather their idiot forces here, in the US. It is coming.

So what are you going to do when it happens? The feds will say, "Leave it to us. Anyone thinking of acting outside "the law" will be prosecuted to the full extent."

Think Waco, on people who choose to defend our country.

Be prepared. It is coming.

Of course, the only sane action will be taken by folks acting on their own. No gatherings, no clubs, just do what is right.

SSS.

Stock ammo. Lots, and lots. But do NOT say you have.


30 posted on 02/09/2006 2:47:57 PM PST by MonroeDNA (Look for the union label--on the bat crashing through your windshield!)
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more dirt on the Wahhabist-aligned terrorist PR group, CAIR:
http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6176


31 posted on 02/09/2006 2:48:34 PM PST by VOA
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These are SCS's (seventh century savages) who have no regard for human life other than to destroy it in the name of a perverted cult known as islam.


32 posted on 02/09/2006 2:52:30 PM PST by Buffettfan
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33 posted on 02/09/2006 3:17:38 PM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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I am a rational, educated, modern human, a product of at least 5,000 years of civilization. I believe in Jesus as The Christ, based on both historic evidence and reasoned examination of the philosophy which He brought to mankind, including that philosophy's teachings and affects. As such, based on direct evidence and experience, I believe that the religion alternately known as "Islam," "being a Muslim" or "follower of Muhammad," in and of itself, is a hate crime and a crime against humanity.

"Islam" preaches hatred, murder and warfare as the basic techniques directed at the imperative of destruction of all who differ, intolerance to an ultimate extreme and dishonesty as a way of life. Premise #1 of Islam is that all other religions are evil and must be suppressed, particularly those that it claims to be descended from, because those religions are based on "lies" and "got it wrong." "Tolerance" is simply a tool to be used to gain temporary space in which to prepare for the destruction of one's enemies.

Much is made about Muslim's "common cause" with "the people of the Book," but the Koran continuously spits on The Bible and The Torah as "lies and distortions." That's not exactly a foundation for mutual understanding and coexistence. Instead it is the very essence of a rationale for genocide.

The base animal instincts that gave rise to Nazism, Stalin and Mao are mere hollow echos of the evil that gave rise to Islam more than 1,000 years earlier. Arabs will claim that "islam" means "submission to god," but they are lying. It is not God they are submitting to.

to paraphrase Ronald Reagan:

"Islam is not a solution to our problem, Islam is the problem"

43 posted on 02/10/2006 5:06:18 PM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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