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Man Wrongly Convicted Now Owes $38,000 In Back Child Support
woodtv8 ^ | 2-3-06 | Orlando

Posted on 02/09/2006 7:57:10 AM PST by Orlando

Newaygo County, Mich,February 2, 2006. A man set free after spending 13 years in prison for a crime he didn't commit is facing more trouble.

Court documents show 53-year-old Larry Souter owes about $38,000.00 in back child support after Interest and Penalties.

The amount grew because he failed to have his payments suspended when he went to prison in 1992.

Souter was convicted for the 1979 murder of 19-year-old Kristi Ringler near White Cloud. But years later, a women came forward saying Ringler was actually hit by a motor home.

More info on:

http://mlive.com/newsflash/michigan/index.ssf?/base/news-31/113900397434230.xml&storylist=newsmichigan

"...In 1987, before his conviction, Souter was ordered to pay $100.00 a week in his divorce with Christine Souter. He stopped paying when he went to prison in 1992...."

"...Federal law prohibits judges from retroactively wiping out such debts..."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: 666laws; childsupport; doublepunishment; injustice; parentalrights; savethemales; wronglyconvicted
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To: Hatteras

IIRC defendant was convicted of beating woman to death with a liquor bottle. No witnesses, no bottle recovered, though she was last seen alive with him and he was carrying a liquor bottle. His statement that she was whapped by a passing Winnebago's rear view mirror was not believed at his trial.


21 posted on 02/09/2006 8:51:55 AM PST by Phil Connors
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To: Orlando

A judge may not be able to "wipe out" the debt, but there are ample means for transferring the liability for it to other parties, in this case, the state which wrongly convicted and imprisoned Souter (and if the conviction hinged on deliberate misrepresentation or withholding of evidence by any individual, then that individual can get hit with the liability). Souter will not have to pay this amount himself, though it may take a while to get it sorted out.


22 posted on 02/09/2006 9:07:44 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Mr. Brightside

Whiskey bottles and motor homes are so similar, you know, that sometimes it's hard to tell them apart . . .


23 posted on 02/09/2006 9:09:18 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Orlando

Someone else would be paying it, or they should be, that is terrible!!


24 posted on 02/09/2006 9:09:51 AM PST by debboo (Stop socialism, vote conservative)
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To: Phil Connors

Not to mention no motive, since it seems to be undisputed that he had just met her.


25 posted on 02/09/2006 9:10:11 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: LWalk18

Indeed, and in this case, the state will end up having to collect from itself, since its own actions are the clear cause for the existence of the debt.


26 posted on 02/09/2006 9:13:32 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Thank you for that infromation.


27 posted on 02/09/2006 9:18:48 AM PST by Orlando (mensnewsdaily.com/forum(Child Support Casualties))
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To: Orlando

After reading the article, I am not surprised that his ex-wife would not let him go for a least part of the money($28K instead of $38K). My own experience shows that most ex's with children are nothing but greedy bitches only my ex has lost plenty of cases against me. He should sue the pants off of all those involved.


28 posted on 02/09/2006 9:19:45 AM PST by JEC (Pray for ALL our troops)
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To: Junior_G
If the mother has any sense of decency she'll let him off the hook.

The mother doesn't have anything to do with it. The Nanny State is the controlling legal authority. Even if he pays it, she won't get it.

29 posted on 02/09/2006 9:20:23 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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To: Capriole

It's possible the woman didn't know someone had been convicted and imprisoned in the girl's death, or even that the girl had dies. The article doesn't explain how she came to know this. For all we know, her father was driving the motor home, did the hit-and-run without anybody else knowing (especially since it was apparently just the mirror that hit the girl), and confessed it to his daughter on his deathbed. If she has known about it all along, she will be facing some liability, though perhaps not a huge amount, assuming she didn't actually testify to the contrary. After all, if she didn't testify, she is hardly the primary cause of a man having been convicted for murdering a girl with a whiskey bottle, when in fact the girl was hit by a motor home.


30 posted on 02/09/2006 9:20:41 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
The article doesn't explain how she came to know this.

If I remember correctly, someone (dad? husband? some relation) told her on a deathbed confession that they were driving the Winnebago and the passenger mirror hit the person on the side of the road.

31 posted on 02/09/2006 9:29:08 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Seriously? Wow, I'm a better guesser than I realized :-)


32 posted on 02/09/2006 9:33:08 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

:-) Truth is stranger than fiction.


33 posted on 02/09/2006 9:45:48 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: VeniVidiVici
Forensic science had greatly improved, since the late 70's and early 80's. They are now able to tell the differences between glass from a bottle and a Winnebago/truck mirror.
This is a sad story...
34 posted on 02/09/2006 10:56:09 AM PST by Orlando (mensnewsdaily.com/forum(Child Support Casualties))
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To: Orlando

Madness.


35 posted on 02/09/2006 10:57:55 AM PST by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings............Modesty hides my thighs in her wings......)
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To: Junior_G
If the mother has any sense of decency she'll let him off the hook.

If his children had any sense of decency they would have ceased eating or needing clothing and shelter during those years he was in prison.

36 posted on 02/09/2006 11:00:42 AM PST by steelcurtain
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To: JEC

I agree, sue them all for millions.


37 posted on 02/09/2006 11:01:25 AM PST by Orlando (mensnewsdaily.com/forum(Child Support Casualties))
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To: Skooz
I agree, and I wonder if the ex-wife send pictures of his childrens(like birthday/Christmas pictures) to him, while he was in prison for those 13 years?
38 posted on 02/09/2006 11:06:31 AM PST by Orlando (mensnewsdaily.com/forum(Child Support Casualties))
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To: TChris

"This should be an easy win for a lawsuit against the offending state. The prosecutor's office and the associated law enforcement department should be required to split this bill between them, from their respective operating budgets. :-)"

Sure, let the taxpayers foot the bill. We pay for everything in the end anyway.


39 posted on 02/09/2006 11:25:04 AM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: B4Ranch
Sure, let the taxpayers foot the bill. We pay for everything in the end anyway.

No, that's the point. Take it from their existing budget for the year. No increase to the taxpayer, just some pain for the departments that screwed up.

40 posted on 02/09/2006 12:04:33 PM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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