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Death, Taxes, and George W. Bush (taxation alert)
Business Week ^ | 2/8/06 | H Gleckman

Posted on 02/08/2006 5:07:55 PM PST by voletti

The President aims to end estate taxes for the wealthiest Americans. He also wants to scrap a $255 death benefit for the poorest The contrast in President Bush's new budget could not be more stark. On one hand, he wants to eliminate what he likes to call the "death tax" -- a levy imposed on a handful of the nation's biggest estates. On the other, he wants to end Social Security's lump sum death benefit -- a $255 check that the families of many of the nation's poorest use to help pay for their funerals.

There is a lot more in Bush's $2.77 trillion budget than that, of course. He'd boost spending for homeland security and the Pentagon, trim many popular domestic programs, and control the growth of Medicare by boosting premiums for high-income seniors and freezing or cutting payments for health providers, such as doctors, hospitals, and hospices. At the same time, the President asked Congress to make most of his first-term tax cuts permanent.

ESTATE PLANNING. That includes permanently eliminating the estate tax, or what conservatives like to call the death tax. Like most of what happens these days in the tax world, the story is complicated, but it goes like this: Starting in 2001, Congress began to gradually increase the size of an estate that would be exempt from tax. By 2009, estates of $3.5 million or less ($7 million for a couple that does the smallest bit of planning), would be tax-free. By 2010 all estates would be exempt from the tax, but only for one year.

So President Bush wants to permanently free all estates from the tax starting in 2011. The estimated annual cost: in excess of $50 billion in 2012, rising to more than $70 billion by 2016.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessweek.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 109th; 2006agenda; bush43; deathtaxes; taxreform
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1 posted on 02/08/2006 5:07:56 PM PST by voletti
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To: voletti

OK.
A barf alert is in order here, perhaps.


2 posted on 02/08/2006 5:09:56 PM PST by voletti (Awareness and Equanimity.)
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To: voletti
I used to read this paltry magazine until I got sick of their socialist control-freak preaching. BusinessWeek is a liberal rag.

Don't let the name fool you B'week is as liberal as The Village Voice.

3 posted on 02/08/2006 5:11:14 PM PST by keithtoo (It's STILL not safe to vote Democrat)
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To: voletti
There's a bill before Congress titled "The Fair Tax Act" (H.R. 25 and S. 25)that will not only eliminate the death/estate tax but will also eliminate all federal taxes. More information can be found at http://www.fairtax.org
4 posted on 02/08/2006 5:14:22 PM PST by Man50D
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To: ancient_geezer; Taxman; pigdog; Principled; EternalVigilance; PhilWill; kevkrom; n-tres-ted; ...

Fair Tax Ping!


5 posted on 02/08/2006 5:15:41 PM PST by Man50D
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To: voletti
But..But..But...

"The Death Tax only effects the uber-super-duper rich....." (parroted by nearly every demonrat in washington)

Yeah, exactly like death only effects the living (well).

Estate taxes kill family businesses, by forced liquidation of assets at fire sale prices, to pay the pigs in washington.

The Death Tax Must DIE!


6 posted on 02/08/2006 5:17:33 PM PST by xcamel (One should hope Global Dumbing is reversible.)
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To: Man50D; voletti
but will also eliminate all federal taxes.
It does not "eliminate all federal taxes". It's a federal tax that replaces a few and taxes the rest.
7 posted on 02/08/2006 5:19:49 PM PST by lewislynn (Fairtax = lies, hope, wishful thinking and conjecture.)
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To: voletti

The only reason the government got an extra $9K from me last year was because they lowered the capital gains tax.

I sat on some land for 20 years with no reason to sell because of the high tax. They dropped the tax rate and i figured it was time to sell. That caused the government to pocket $9K with no work or investment on it's part.

Gee, funny how that worked.


8 posted on 02/08/2006 5:20:48 PM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: lewislynn
HR 25, The "Fair Tax" eliminates the entire income tax code and replaces the revenue with a single stage, single rate, flat sales tax on discretionary spending. Business to business transactions are not taxed - only final, retail purchases of new goods and services.

Here's a quick FAQ.

9 posted on 02/08/2006 5:28:20 PM PST by Principled
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To: PeteB570

How can you justify paying a benefit to everyone by saying it is important to the very poor? It is the grasp of the middle income people for poverty benefits that kills the budget.


10 posted on 02/08/2006 5:32:33 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Principled

The fairtax does not eliminate all federal taxes dufus.


11 posted on 02/08/2006 5:39:45 PM PST by lewislynn (Fairtax = lies, hope, wishful thinking and conjecture.)
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To: Principled
The "Fair Tax" might as well be called the "Fairy Tax", because you have an equal chance of seeing either one.

..and Fair Tax is a consummate oxymoron too.

12 posted on 02/08/2006 5:42:25 PM PST by xcamel (One should hope Global Dumbing is reversible.)
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To: voletti

$255 would not pay for much of a funeral. It is an archaic benefit that mostly just confuses people. Even the poorest could afford a tiny $5k term life policy, please!


13 posted on 02/08/2006 5:43:26 PM PST by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: ClaireSolt
I think I missed your point.

I am middle class and I pay both sides of the tax issue ( I'm self employed). The government got the extra $9K from me only because I sold some land due to the lower tax rate.

If the rate stayed high I would have sat on the land till Dante's Pond turned into a skating rink.
14 posted on 02/08/2006 5:43:56 PM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: voletti
It also calls for higher medical payments by vets:

"http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1521019.php"

15 posted on 02/08/2006 5:44:47 PM PST by Sarajevo
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To: lewislynn

The FairTax replaces the method of tax collection. Instead of basing the individual's tax burden on income and a collection of other highly selective events as we have now, it bases the individual's tax burden on expenditures.

OKAY?!?

In any case, I'm glad Bush is trying to ax the evil death tax.


16 posted on 02/08/2006 5:52:14 PM PST by ovrtaxt (I have a crush on this bag lady. Does that make me a hobosexual?)
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To: voletti
The estimated annual cost: in excess of $50 billion in 2012, rising to more than $70 billion by 2016.

This must be a misprint. They MUST meant to have said "The estimated savings to American taxpayers would be in excess of $50 billion......" ;-)

17 posted on 02/08/2006 5:54:01 PM PST by jdsteel ('nuff said.)
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To: ovrtaxt

The Fairtax plan does NOT eliminate all federal taxes. The Fairtax plan "replaces" some federal taxes with a NEW federal tax then taxes the ones it did not replace (including itself).


18 posted on 02/08/2006 6:23:59 PM PST by lewislynn (Fairtax = lies, hope, wishful thinking and conjecture.)
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To: lewislynn

Well, OK, let's be more specific even though the people would have the information if they visited the FairTax website.

The FairTax eliminates income taxes, payroll taxes, estate taxes and gift taxes in addition to eliminating the IRS and calling for the repeal of the 16th amendment and the destruction of the income tax records.

Saying it replaces "a few" taxes as you do is merely a Status Quo Lover's attempt at misdirection hoping the word won't get out ... but it is getting oput despite your efforts, Looey.


19 posted on 02/08/2006 6:33:03 PM PST by pigdog
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To: lewislynn

NO, Looey wrong this time you make this statement - just like the last x00 times - it does eliminate the oincome tax, etc. exactly as the bill says.

And the new tax system specified by the FairTax bill does NOT then taxe "the ones it did not replace (including itself).". That's merely another of your attempted diversions (or else your ignorance coming to the fore) since you've had THAT pointed out many, many times as well. Even any state sales taxes that might remain are not taxed by the FairTax wither (as you have continually misstated them to be taxed).


20 posted on 02/08/2006 6:41:17 PM PST by pigdog
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