Posted on 02/07/2006 8:14:09 PM PST by bnelson44
Well, it's done. I appeared tonight on Fox News Channel's Hannity and Colmes for an all-too-brief segment on the Muhammad Cartoons. Before I drove to the Washington, D.C., studio, I stopped by a Kinko's store, printed out the cartoons, and pasted them onto a piece of poster board. I then used my short time on the airwaves to do what no one wants to do on American TV:
I tried to show viewers all 12 cartoons to give viewers the full context of the Jyllands-Posten's decision to publish the artwork.
(Excerpt) Read more at michellemalkin.com ...
Colmes is such a weasel. I loved it a couple of weeks ago when Hal Lindsey was on H&C and blatantly told Colmes, when asked if Islam was a violent religion, that IT WAS. It even took Hannity by surprise.
Maybe that is true, but that was THEN, this is NOW - we've moved on a bit, don'cha think?
I respect people's religious beliefs - but only to the point where they leave me alone. When they start demanding that I submit to their rules - forget it.
These people are DEADLY serious.
Good for Brit, but the point of Michelle's blog was that the producers limited her display and explaination. She went on to say that they cut away to Islamic protests, presumably to
avoid controvesy over the display of the material.
Oh just do NOT even go there. The next nimrod on this forum that lays this "well gee golly, Christians caused their share of death and destruction the same way as Islam!" bullshit on us is gonna get a serious earful.........
And when was this exactly? Your comments are irrelevant to today. One cultures sins from years back do not justify the sins of another, today.
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That was 400 years ago, and you forget all of Europe was trying to stay united in faith because of the Mortal threat of the Turks. Behaving like a bunch of monkeys today because somebody drew something you don't like is EVIL.
I know Laura is in Iraq. I tune her in every morning if I can.
The parallel between Christianity and Islam is false. Short version: If Islam insists on inserting its religion into secular life [church & state] then it is open to criticism, parody, satire, etc.
Ed Morrisey of Captain's Quarters blog says it best:
"Editorial cartoons exist to challenge political thought and expose hypocrisy. Among religions, Islam should be the least protected from this form of speech, as it insists on involving itself in temporal political matters wherever it is practiced. Indeed, it insists on dictating political and legal matters, usually in the most extreme terms, and it uses the life of Mohammed as its claim on political and legal supremacy...That insistence on dictating terms of temporal power makes criticism, by cartoonists or editorialists, absolutely necessary in order to combat the stultifying reach of sharia. Islam sets the terms of debate. It cannot insist on temporal rule based on Mohammed and the Qu'ran and then expect people to refrain from criticizing either one...Islam wants to impose its tenets on us, and if we give up the option of political criticism, we have moved more than halfway towards surrender to the Islamists. For those individuals who cross the line into unnecessary offense, the option to use free debate to argue the point will remain open as long as we defend free speech."
If you read throught the information on Michelle's site it leads you to other sites that explains that a lot of the so-called cartoons were fakes, made up by the Danish Imam and taken on his rebel-rousing tour. One of the photos was taken from MSNBC's website from a French pig calling contest and the Imam took the photo, re-copied it to b&w and passed it off as an insult to Ismal because the guy was made to look like he was mocking Mohammad, not what he was really doing....
You've engaged a dicto simpliciter ad dictum secundum quid.
A woman with a pair! Good for her.
She's got guts.
But Christianity has undergone a reformation - we no longer burn people for disagreeing with us.
Literally, iconoclasm is the destruction of religious icons and other symbols or monuments, usually for religious or political motives. In Christian circles, iconoclasm has generally been motivated by a literal interpretation of the second of the ten commandments, which forbids the making and worshipping of "graven images". It has sometimes been motivated by christological or even political concerns as well.
The first iconoclastic period: 730-787
The second iconoclastic period: 814-842
What ironic is the above periods were brought about because many Christians thought Christian defeats to Muslims were brought on by GOD in what their view was vilolating the second commandment
Reformation iconoclasm
Some of the Protestant reformers encouraged their followers to destroy Catholic art works by insisting that they were idols. Huldrych Zwingli and John Calvin promoted this approach to the adaptation of earlier buildings for Protestant worship. In 1562, some Calvinists destroyed the tomb of St. Irenaeus and the relics inside, which are said to have been under the altar of a church since his martyrdom in 202, though iconoclastic riots took place in Zürich (in 1523), Copenhagen (1530), Münster (1534), Geneva (1535), Augsburg (1537) and Scotland (1559).
The Seventeen Provinces (now the Netherlands and Belgium) were hit by a large wave of Protestant iconoclasm in the summer of 1566. This is called the Beeldenstorm and included such acts as the destruction of the statuary of the Monastery of Saint Lawrence in Steenvoorde after a Hagenpreek, or field sermon, by Sebastiaan Matte; and the sacking of the Monastery of Saint Anthony after a sermon by Jacob de Buysere. The Beeldenstorm marked the start of the revolution against the Spanish forces and the Catholic church. See Flanders for more on its history.
In England, Bishop Joseph Hall of Norwich described the events of 1643 when troops and citizens, encouraged by a Parliamentary ordinance against superstition and idolatry, behaved thus:
'Lord what work was here! What clattering of glasses! What beating down of walls! What tearing up of monuments! What pulling down of seats! What wresting out of irons and brass from the windows! What defacing of arms! What demolishing of curious stonework! what tooting and piping upon organ pipes! And what a hideous triumph in the market-place before all the country, when all the mangled organ pipes, vestments, both copes and surplices, together with the leaden cross which had newly been sawn down from the Green-yard pulpit and the service-books and singing books that could be carried to the fire in the public market-place were heaped together'
the above if from the wilipedia but I the Catholic Encyclopedia has a much more indepth article
Did anyone see last night when Colmes called Muhammad a deity? Seems like I remember hearing "THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH!!!" The Moslems ought to be storming Colmes' house by now.
I'll settle for hot oil wrestling.Steel cage match.
I agree we have progressed. I think that in such a fast growing religion as ISLAM you are bound to see it like we saw it in Christianity. OF course back then we were blessed that JOhn Calvin in Geneva and the Pope in Rome didnt have nuclear weapons
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