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Intel Yonah hidden features exposed
Hexus.net ^ | 7 February 2006 | Willy Deeplung

Posted on 02/07/2006 2:01:33 PM PST by ShadowAce

Word reaches the Deeplung ear that Intel's Yonah processor, which ships under the Intel Core Duo moniker, has features that aren't being exposed to the consumer. Intel's Sossaman is the key, and Sossaman is the codename for an ultra low voltage Yonah to be shipped under the Xeon brand, into the server and workstation space.

And it transpires that Sossaman supports iAMD64, er, sorry, 'EM64T', symmetric multi-processing with another Sossaman Xeon, and hardware virtualisation. Intel's implementation of the 64-bit extension to x86, SMP and hardware VT are all missing from the official specs of Intel Core Duo consumer processors, despite Yonah and Sossaman being the same thing.

While hardware VT and SMP aren't really on the consumer radar for notebook users, the ability to move to a 64-bit version of Windows or Linux, with a supporting platform of course, surely appeals. It's therefore surprising to see Intel seem to hide away that ability in its Intel Core Duo chips, which now power a range of Apple products lest we forget.

Why so, Intel? Possibly even more beanworthy, especially if you love your CPU silicon as much as we do, is the whisper that Intel also engineered a version of Pentium-M with HyperThreading, 'back in the day'. While that matters little with the way the Core Duo platform has debuted, since it would seem to offer nothing that two complete cores can't do better, it's an interesting HEXUS.bean nonetheless, eh readers?

Want to chat about the fact your new MacBook, iMac or Windows-based Core Duo notebook won't let you run a 64-bit OS, despite the CPU having the ability? Please do!


TOPICS: Technical
KEYWORDS: intel; linux; mac; windows; yonah

1 posted on 02/07/2006 2:01:37 PM PST by ShadowAce
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To: rdb3; chance33_98; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Bush2000; PenguinWry; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; ...

2 posted on 02/07/2006 2:01:54 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Swordmaker; HAL9000

Mac Ping!


3 posted on 02/07/2006 2:02:22 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Intel's Windows platform is sloppy lately. Too many different CPU's and little difference. You got Pentium 4, Pentium 4 D, Pentium 4 M, and Pentium 4 D Extreme.

Simplify it already.


4 posted on 02/07/2006 2:03:37 PM PST by Lauretij2
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To: ShadowAce

I ordered new MacBookPro few weeksago. Can't wait to get it! Hope someone can expose these built-in features.


5 posted on 02/07/2006 2:05:15 PM PST by nikola
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To: ShadowAce
I had to turn off ipv6 protocol in SUSE Linux 10. I have a top of the line P4 notebook and on dial up the Internet was slow. Support for cutting edge standards isn't widespread on the Internet yet. Same with microchips such as the one unveiled by Intel. No implementation of new features is possible if the software isn't there to take advantage of them.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")


6 posted on 02/07/2006 2:05:56 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: ShadowAce

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1573802/posts


7 posted on 02/07/2006 2:07:38 PM PST by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

I'm not sure of the meaning of your post. Is this just more information on Intel, or are you claiming a double post?


8 posted on 02/07/2006 2:16:18 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Lauretij2
Simplify it already.

They're working on it. Their rebranding and the Core* chips is the first step, and the Pentium name (and maybe Xeon) will likely be retired with the next generation of chips (Conroe, Merom and Woodcrest).

9 posted on 02/07/2006 2:16:23 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Pentium was (is) the top of the line in Intel microchip processors. My first PC was an original Pentium and my current desktop features and Intel III chip. I have two notebooks in the Intel II and IV series.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

10 posted on 02/07/2006 2:19:52 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: ShadowAce
IS there a "techinese" to English translator on the web?
11 posted on 02/07/2006 2:20:18 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: goldstategop
Pentium was (is) the top of the line in Intel microchip processors.

"Pentium" is just a branding. I can see Intel wanting to dump it as the public is starting to realize that "Pentium" is inferior to "Athlon" now. Xeon might go since any IT guy worth his salt knows that an Opteron will beat it, and totally crush it in 4- and 8-way implementations.

12 posted on 02/07/2006 2:29:31 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: BenLurkin
Hardware virtualization is the next Big Thing. It means you can run Windows under MacOS (or vice versa), without buying 2 computers. Or you can virtualize an older Windows to run an old game. Or you can surf the web from a jail VM -- any downloaded viral infection cannot escape the VM.

The original Intel architecture is very hard to virtualize efficiently (it was never designed for it). Hardware VM lets the virtual OS run almost as fast as the real thing.

13 posted on 02/07/2006 2:31:02 PM PST by Gideon7
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To: antiRepublicrat

Good. I plan on upgrading sometime late this year or early next year for Vista. I'm running a *2 year old* P4 3ghz at 3.3ghz overclocked. That's still very competitive.

Any idea when the next gen will be out? I assume for Vista..


14 posted on 02/07/2006 2:36:42 PM PST by Lauretij2
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To: Lauretij2
Intel's Windows platform is sloppy lately. Too many different CPU's and little difference. You got Pentium 4, Pentium 4 D, Pentium 4 M, and Pentium 4 D Extreme.

... and don't forget the Pentium 4 Limited 'Eddie Bauer' Edition!

15 posted on 02/07/2006 2:40:54 PM PST by 6SJ7
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To: Gideon7

OR perhaps a virtual hardware can turn you computer system into a utility bill. If you don't pay your bill then you get no virtual hardware...


16 posted on 02/07/2006 2:45:12 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: All

does it send verification to ACLU or DNC when a republican president wiretaps citizens lol


17 posted on 02/07/2006 3:35:27 PM PST by Kewlhand`tek (Those that can't , Teach. Those that can't teach , Report)
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A somewhat techy Mac Ping...

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.


18 posted on 02/07/2006 9:02:15 PM PST by Swordmaker (Beware of Geeks bearing GIFs.)
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To: Kewlhand`tek
does it send verification to ACLU or DNC when a republican president wiretaps citizens lol

Shhhhh. That is backdoor technology. Code named "Brokeback".

19 posted on 02/07/2006 10:25:55 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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