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'Cartoons Triggered Holocaust too: Let Europe Learn from History'
Zaman ^ | 2-4-06

Posted on 02/04/2006 5:08:40 PM PST by SJackson

Selcuk Gultasli, Brussels Published: Saturday, February 04, 2006 zaman.com

Robert Seiple, the US government's first ambassador for religious freedom, heavily criticized those who published the insulting cartoons of Prophet Mohammed and recalled, "Cartoons triggered the Holocaust, too."

Seiple serving as the first United States ambassador for religious freedom in 1998-2000 during Bill Clinton’s presidency said, "The question is not the freedom of expression but being civilized."

Seiple speaking to Zaman warned the European governments "to learn a lesson from the past" and "not to be late".

The former ambassador suggested Muslims to react against incidents quickly like Jewish people do. Seiple said the religion is sacred and the cartoons ridiculing "the sacred" are "impudent." "Ridiculing the sacred has no place in a civilized world based on values," Seiple noted. If the same is valid for Jesus-Christ, he added, a group of Christians would be rightly "very offended."

"One of our biggest problems today is that we do not understand our own religion. When we do not understand our own religion, we do not respect it, and we do not understand at all the religion of the others. And this brings terrible results."

The US for the first time issued a report on international religious freedoms during Seiple's tenure and announced to the public the extent religious freedom can be practiced. Ambassador Seiple upon being reminded the cartoons were published on the ground of "freedom of expression" said: "Nobody is talking about limiting the freedom of expression here. We are talking about being civilized and acting in a civilized manner. I neither saw nor heard anybody calling for the removal of the freedom of expression or thought in this discussion. People are just re-invited to have respect. I consider respecting beliefs of others comes before the freedom of expression in the scale of values. Freedom of expression must not humiliate people."

The former ambassador added he understands the anger Muslims feel, these kinds of events generally spiral out of control. "When you do not understand something, you categorize it. This happens because of intellectual laziness. You do not try to understand." After categorization, he went on, one produces stereotypes. When the stereotypes come out, one demonizes them, and then one hates them. From that point on, violence begins."

Seiple, recalling the caricatures published in Germany during the 3rd Reich period contributed to the formation of the atmosphere leading to the Holocaust, criticized the anti-Semitic cartoons published particularly in Egypt. Nazis had published several anti-Semitic caricatures during the 3rd Reich era. Jews in these drawings was regarded as a race exploiting Germany unmercifully, the source of all evils and corrupting German women.

Seiple terming the caricatures published in Europe as "an assault to pluralism" revealed his opposition to "irresponsible freedom" emphasizing, "Such activities were never advantageous and will never be so in the future."

Accusing the European leaders of acting "slow," Seiple cited, "They should learn a lesson from history and should not react only when they are under pressure."

Muslims are supposed to learn from the reactions Jews showed towards the Anti-Semitic events, he disclosed. "Why do Jewish people severely react to even a simplest event? Because they say the world public react slowly in the past. The world was slow to act while six million Jewish people were killed and their beliefs were humiliated across Europe. The European leaders should look back to the past, and avoid being late to react and should not react only when they are under pressure."

Seiple worrying that the thesis "clash of civilizations" by Samuel Huntington will be true if common sense fails, continued: "We are all the children of Abraham and come from his tradition, which is our great common ground. Everybody should keep away from clash; otherwise, we will experience a blood bath never seen in the world before."


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: cartoons; danishcartoons; diversity; multiculturalism; robertseiple; seiple
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1 posted on 02/04/2006 5:08:41 PM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson

Under Clinton eh? Doesn't surprise me.


2 posted on 02/04/2006 5:11:33 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: SJackson

I am stunned.


3 posted on 02/04/2006 5:11:42 PM PST by saveliberty (Proud to be Head Snowflake, Bushbot and a new member of Sam's Club)
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I can't believe we have an Ambassador at Large for Religious Freedom. I sincerely hope he was the LAST Ambassador at Large for Religious Freedom as well.

4 posted on 02/04/2006 5:11:50 PM PST by SJackson (elected members of Hamas: businesspeople, professionals, not terrorists. Scott McClellan)
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To: SJackson

We are being a tad dramatic.


5 posted on 02/04/2006 5:14:14 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: SJackson
Seiple said the religion is sacred and the cartoons ridiculing "the sacred" are "impudent."

Remember the piece of art that consisted of a crucifix half-submerged in urine? I wonder what his opinion was about that.

6 posted on 02/04/2006 5:14:19 PM PST by Starve The Beast (I used to be disgusted, but now I try to be amused)
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To: SJackson

My new tags just came...


7 posted on 02/04/2006 5:14:36 PM PST by DoughtyOne (If it's a "Religion of Peace", some folks just aren't very religious.)
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To: SJackson

It was cartoons that triggered the Holocaust?
Send this guy to remedial history please.


8 posted on 02/04/2006 5:15:06 PM PST by bordergal
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To: SJackson
[Seiple serving as the first United States ambassador for religious freedom in 1998-2000 during Bill Clinton’s presidency said, "The question is not the freedom of expression but being civilized." ]

We already know the Left's answer to this question.

9 posted on 02/04/2006 5:16:26 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (A Liberal: One who demands half of your pie because he didn't bake one.)
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We are talking about being civilized...

Tell it to the Muzzies you idiot.

10 posted on 02/04/2006 5:16:59 PM PST by clintonh8r (If you don't support the mission you don't support the troops. Period.)
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To: saveliberty

What in the world is this imbecile spewing?


11 posted on 02/04/2006 5:19:12 PM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: SJackson

Those who the Gods would destroy
First they would make angry


12 posted on 02/04/2006 5:19:36 PM PST by mad puppy ( The Southern border needs to be a MAJOR issue in 2006 and 2008)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
""The question is not the freedom of expression but being civilized."

Islam never was, and can ever be "civilized"...

13 posted on 02/04/2006 5:20:09 PM PST by JDoutrider
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To: Starve The Beast
Seiple said the religion is sacred and the cartoons ridiculing "the sacred" are "impudent."

Islam is about as "sacred" as my last bowel movement.

14 posted on 02/04/2006 5:20:18 PM PST by montag813
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To: bordergal
It was cartoons that triggered the Holocaust?

I didn't know that Hitler read the funny pages. Learn something new every day.

15 posted on 02/04/2006 5:20:40 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (A Liberal: One who demands half of your pie because he didn't bake one.)
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To: SJackson
so he is comparing these cartoons to those preceding the holocaust.....

Hate to state the obvious but the Jews in the late 30's never beheaded innocent people...never purposely flew planes into buildings killing 1000's of innocents and never threatened anyone for that matter...

the scuzlims are always saying their actions are in direct response to the way they have been treated so they should know first hand- you reap what you sew....
16 posted on 02/04/2006 5:21:13 PM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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Cartoons did not create the holocaust. The National Socialist Workers Party did.


17 posted on 02/04/2006 5:23:21 PM PST by JHBowden (Go White Sox -- World Champs!)
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To: JDoutrider
Islam never was, and can ever be "civilized"...

But, I beg to differ, sir. If the violent muslims are all killed off (as is going to happen), then the remainder will be civilized...If there are none remaining, then, so be it.

18 posted on 02/04/2006 5:23:25 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (A Liberal: One who demands half of your pie because he didn't bake one.)
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To: SJackson
"The question is not the freedom of expression but being civilized."

I'll grant you that there is such a thing as self-censorship, and it's a good thing. However, in this case, it's clear who's NOT "being civilized." It's the Islamicists, as usual.

19 posted on 02/04/2006 5:24:15 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: montag813
Watch out. They might burn an effigy of you or threaten to cut your head off. /sarc
20 posted on 02/04/2006 5:28:54 PM PST by dhs12345
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