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CA: Workers' Comp Savings Detailed (rates back to 1996 levels and lower than FL and TX)
LA Times ^ | 2/4/06 | Marc Lifsher

Posted on 02/04/2006 11:15:48 AM PST by NormsRevenge

SACRAMENTO — California's overhaul of its troubled workers' compensation insurance system has saved employers at least $8.1 billion over the last three years, and the benefits to the economy are expected to continue, according to a study sent to the governor and Legislature on Friday.

The report commissioned by the state Department of Industrial Relations found that workers' comp premiums paid by businesses and nonprofit organizations, which soared as much as 200% in the early part of the decade, have been almost cut in half since July 2003.

What's more, rates in California, the highest in the nation in 2004, have dropped to 1996 levels and now are lower than those in other big states such as Texas and Florida, the report said.

Democratic lawmakers, labor unions and advocates for injured workers complain that at least some of the savings created by passage of the 2003 and 2004 workers' compensation laws has been at the expense of benefits and medical care for employees injured on the job.

"We're pleased that the rates are dropping, but this [report] only looks at half of the equation," said Steven Maviglio, a spokesman for Assembly Speaker Fabian Nuñez (D-Los Angeles). "It doesn't look at whether the savings are coming out of the hide of injured workers."

Maviglio noted that another major study being finalized by the state Commission on Health, Safety and Workers' Compensation concluded that rules imposed last year by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's administration had reduced benefits for permanently injured workers by more than 50%.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; detailed; savings; schwarzenegger; workerscomp
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1 posted on 02/04/2006 11:15:51 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
....reduced benefits for permanently injured workers by more than 50%.

This is a good thing, considering some of the horror stories I've seen and many others I've heard about. Workman's Comp was rapidly driving business out of the state.

2 posted on 02/04/2006 11:21:52 AM PST by jimtorr
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To: NormsRevenge
Something doesn't ring true here Norm.

Costs to renew annual coverages experienced by local employers recently are down a bit but not anywhere near 50%.

What's missing from this presentation?

3 posted on 02/04/2006 11:30:20 AM PST by Amerigomag
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To: NormsRevenge; Amerigomag
From the Department of Workers Compensation website:
Study: The effects of legislative reforms on California workers’ compensation insurance rates

Study required by Labor Code section 138.65 (SB 899) and performed by Bickmore Risk Services under contract with the DWC

Executive summary [PDF]
Click here to download the entire report [HTML]


4 posted on 02/04/2006 11:38:09 AM PST by calcowgirl
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To: Amerigomag; tork; All

I would sure appreciate comments from some small business owners in California re: their savings of late as this study may be more reflective of large businesses and their savings.


5 posted on 02/04/2006 11:38:49 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: calcowgirl

Thanks!


6 posted on 02/04/2006 11:39:09 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NormsRevenge
Bingo! Got it Norm.

This report uses the zero-sum-gain game.

The saving projected ($8.1B) and the rate comparison (50%) are based on the difference between what rates would have been under the increases that California was experiencing, and the rate reductions that Davis' and the Wilsonegger gang's legislation accomplished.

Comparing Apples to Oranges.

7 posted on 02/04/2006 11:40:10 AM PST by Amerigomag
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http://www.dir.ca.gov/DIRNews/2006/IR2006-05.html

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
IR #2006-05
February 2, 2006

CONTACT:
Susan Gard
(510) 286-7049

State Division of Workers' Compensation releases study on the effects of legislative reforms on California workers' compensation insurance rates

Oakland - The state Division of Workers' Compensation (DWC) today released a study on the effects of legislative reforms on insurance rates in California. The study was conducted by Bickmore Risk Services under contract with the DWC.

"The study contains positive news for the California workers' compensation system," said DWC Acting Administrative Director Carrie Nevans. "Rates have been reduced and competition has returned to California's market."

The study report indicates approved insurance rates for 2006 have decreased by 46 percent, bringing them to rates below those charged in 1996. The report also indicates insurance companies are passing the bulk of their savings through to employers.

California Labor Code section 138.65 (SB 899) required the DWC's administrative director, after consultation with the state insurance commissioner, to contract with a qualified organization to study the effects of the 2003 and 2004 legislative reforms on workers' compensation insurance rates. The scope of the study included:

  • Identifying and quantifying the savings generated by the reforms
  • Reviewing rates to determine the extent to which reform savings were passed on to employers
  • Assessing the effect of the reform savings on replenishing insurer surpluses
  • Reviewing the effects of the reforms on rates, the marketplace and competition
  • Reviewing the adequacy and accuracy of the pure premium rate recommended by the Workers' Compensation Insurance Bureau (WCIRB) and adopted by the insurance commissioner.

The primary research for the report was conducted by collecting information from a wide range of organizations, including the California Department of Insurance, the WCIRB, the University of California Data/Survey Research Center and the California Workers' Compensation Institute, along with reviewing claim files and conducting surveys.

The study can be downloaded from the DWC Web site at www.dir.ca.gov/dwc.


8 posted on 02/04/2006 11:51:30 AM PST by calcowgirl
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To: NormsRevenge
I've been hearing this from agents and small business people all over the place. This is a major, major victory for small business in this state. Note that very little complaining has been heard from claimants, despite the chicken-little predictions from the Bar and labor organizations. As designed, this stopped the most egregious and ridiculous claims while improving benefits for many others of the more seriously injured.

Naturally, the MSM refuses to cover it, and so the public is largely unaware.

Much more remains to be done however. Many times employees are still forced to sue their employers to get decent settlements, so that the lawyers get their cut. It is a nightmare, as many honest employees will tell you. That is simply wrong.

We need to torque down on minor and specious injuries more by bringing in more common sense judgment and less litigation. Laws that tilt away from tort and toward 24 hr health care integration would bring new economies and increase benefits for everyone.
9 posted on 02/04/2006 11:52:02 AM PST by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

"California's overhaul of its troubled workers' compensation insurance system has saved employers at least $8.1 billion over the last three years, and the benefits to the economy are expected to continue, according to a study sent to the governor and Legislature on Friday.

The report commissioned by the state Department of Industrial Relations found that workers' comp premiums paid by businesses and nonprofit organizations, which soared as much as 200% in the early part of the decade, have been almost cut in half since July 2003.

What's more, rates in California, the highest in the nation in 2004, have dropped to 1996 levels and now are lower than those in other big states such as Texas and Florida, the report said. "


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Here is one of Arnold's major accomplishments. Under a Dem governor it would have continued to keep getting worse.

Arnold is very much different from a Dem governor.


10 posted on 02/04/2006 12:33:44 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Amerigomag
"What's more, rates in California, the highest in the nation in 2004, have dropped to 1996 levels and now are lower than those in other big states such as Texas and Florida, the report said."
11 posted on 02/04/2006 12:38:56 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: NormsRevenge

Consider the source: L.A. Times.


12 posted on 02/04/2006 12:41:26 PM PST by Crawdad (So the guy says to the doctor, "It hurts when I do this.")
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To: NormsRevenge

BUMP


13 posted on 02/04/2006 12:45:24 PM PST by SweetCaroline (Grandchildren are GOD'S way of compensating us for growing old. THANKS GOD!)
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To: NormsRevenge
But I thought Arnold was all bad! (sarcasm)

Nice work, Governor.

14 posted on 02/04/2006 4:05:59 PM PST by newzjunkey (In 2006: Reelect Arnold; Get GOP Elected in CA; Halt W's Amnesty for Illegals. Win in Iraq.)
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To: FairOpinion
Here is one of Arnold's major accomplishments. Under a Dem governor it would have continued to keep getting worse.

Arnold is very much different from a Dem governor.

I hope enough folks realize this come November.

15 posted on 02/04/2006 4:07:45 PM PST by newzjunkey (In 2006: Reelect Arnold; Get GOP Elected in CA; Halt W's Amnesty for Illegals. Win in Iraq.)
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To: FairOpinion
Under a Dem governor it would have continued to keep getting worse.

More attention to the thread seems in order. The major changes in worker's comp reform occurred under Davis, driven by the anger of the public. Surprisingly, that information was contained in the brief excerpt posted.

Those pesky little details. They disturb a partisan fantasy every time.

16 posted on 02/04/2006 5:35:12 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: newzjunkey

A good start.

The jury is still out as to whose 'Hall of Fame' he'll eventually end up in tho, imo. ;-)


17 posted on 02/04/2006 5:39:18 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NormsRevenge
I just talked to my son and he says his rates today are slightly higher than at the peak but that is only because more companies are writing Comp policies. Rates are hard to get a handle on because of a thing call X Mod due to claims.

His rate is at parity now but a employee has opened a claim and had surgery this week for a injury at his previous employer. :(

I think this reduction all started the last year of Davis?

18 posted on 02/04/2006 6:07:58 PM PST by tubebender (Always remember that you're unique. Just like everyone else...)
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Do they still have the law/rule in California, if that an employee can claim that their "injury" is 51% due to their job, they can claim full worker's comp benefits?

I ask this, because I treated a woman in physical therapy several years ago that was claiming her repetative use injury was "mostly" due to her job...never mind her chronic pre-existing problem of fibromyalgia.

19 posted on 02/04/2006 6:19:44 PM PST by kstewskis (Always on a mission for the nectar of the Northwest....in search of Moose Drool ale....)
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To: Amerigomag
Nice try at obfuscation, misdirection and disinformation. Davis is proud of you. Unfortunately you left out the truth.

"What's more, rates in California, the highest in the nation in 2004, have dropped to 1996 levels and now are lower than those in other big states such as Texas and Florida, the report said. "

Oct. 7, 2003 -- Arnold elected governor.

Schwarzenegger Signs Workers Comp Reform

In 2003, Davis signed a workers' comp reform bill he praised as a "complete overhaul" ... but California's workers' comp costs remained high above the national average.

Schwarzenegger, who had made reform of the state's workers' comp system a top priority during his campaign, called a special session of the legislature to address the matter. He threatened to place a reform bill on the November 2004 ballot if lawmakers refused to support his plans and failed to take action by March 1.

"If modest reform is all that lands on my desk, I am prepared to take my workers' comp solution directly to the people and I will put it on the ballot in November," Schwarzenegger said.

As the March 1 deadline passed without agreement in the legislature, the governor publicly expressed his support for the Committee for Workers' Compensation Reform and Accountability, which was sponsoring an initiative to place the "Workers' Compensation Reform and Accountability Act" on the ballot.

The legislature finally passed legislation to reform the system on April 16.(2004) The governor signed the bill three days later.

20 posted on 02/04/2006 7:18:24 PM PST by FairOpinion
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