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Bush urges US Congress to lift H-1B visa limit
PTI ^ | February 03, 2006 | Sridhar Krishnaswami

Posted on 02/04/2006 4:38:34 AM PST by Tyche

Making a strong pitch for America to stay competitive in the face of emerging economies such as India and China, President George W Bush has urged the Congress to raise the number of H-1B visas that allow companies to hire foreign workers for scientific and high tech jobs.

"Congress needs to understand that nations like India, China, Japan, Korea and Canada all offer tax incentives that are permanent. In other words, we live in a competitive world. We want to be the leader in this world," Bush said in a speech in Minnesota on Thursday.

To fill vacant jobs in the US, Bush urged the Congress to lift current limit on H-1B visas that allow foreign workers to get jobs in the United States. The Congress in 2005 capped at 65,000 the number of H-1B visas, a third of the 195,000 allowed during the technology boom.

"I think it's a mistake not to encourage more really bright folks who can fill the jobs that are having trouble being filled here in America, to limit their number. So I call upon Congress to be realistic and reasonable and raise that cap," Bush said, but did not say by how much he wanted the limit lifted.

He said that one part of the agenda to stay competitive was to study math and science, a theme he touched on in his State of the Union Address on Tuesday.

"It's one thing to research, but if you don't have somebody in that lab, well… And so I got some ideas for the Congress to consider. The first is to emphasize math and science early, and to make sure that the courses are rigorous enough that our children can compete globally," Bush said in a speech at the 3M Corporation.

He said there are more high-tech jobs in America today than people available to fill them. "So what do we do about that? And the reason it's important -- and the American citizen has got to understand it's important -- is if we don't do something about how to fill those high-tech jobs here, they'll go somewhere else where somebody can do the job."

"There are some who say, we can't worry about competition. It doesn't matter, it's here. It's a real aspect of the world in which we live," he said.

"And so one way to deal with this problem, and probably the most effective way, is to recognize that there's a lot of bright engineers and chemists and physicists from other lands that are either educated here, or received an education elsewhere but want to work here. And they come here under a programme called H1B visas," Bush said.

He said America should not fear competition. "It's important for us not to lose our confidence in changing times. It's important for us not to fear competition but welcome it."

Senior administration officials noted that the number of H-1B visas has fallen to 65,000 which in their estimation was 'too low' and that it was imperative 'to bump that up.'

". . . some of reports have called for increases of 10,000; others between 20,000 and 40,000. So there is a number of options on the table to be considered. But we'll work with Congress on that," said Claude Allen, assistant to the President for domestic policy.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; china; h1b; india; screwthepoochgeorge; visa
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To: freeangel
>>>......while fully qualified Americans are looking for those jobs.<<<

Not true. At 4.7% unemployment we are below what has traditionally considered full employment. The number of people moving from one job to the next is usually around 5% - so we are at a practical maximum for employment.

In addition, many of those looking for work are products of American Public Education...dominated by the NEA (National Education Association) union. The emphasis of the NEA is benefits for teachers and administrators - to the neglect of the kids and good education. We need serious educational reform to fix the problem. Bush has made proposals which the educational establishment is fighting tooth and nail.

Until we have a fix to the education problem, we need skilled workers to keep our economy humming.

The lack of skills in our kids coming out of college is a whole other dilemma. Bottom line: until we stop having kids majoring in "womens studies", "black studies", "the economic prosperity of Marxism and Leninism", and "cross gender planing".....we are in a world of hurt!

341 posted on 02/04/2006 10:55:29 AM PST by HardStarboard
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To: logician2u
And you prefer the anti-business, anti-free-trade rhetoric of a Richard Gephardt over the nominal free-trade policies of the Bush administration?

We all want business to thrive in the United States, that's the point, the government is artificially forcing competition on them. Bush talks about China and India rising as competitors. Why is that happening all of a sudden, could the free trade agreements he appears obsessed with pursuing have something to do with it?

If enough Republicans join with the populists and zenophobes and know-nothings and stir up fear among the blue-collar voters

In case you forgot, it was those blue-collar Reagan democrats who gave us conservatism in the eighties. If you start messing with their economic situation the Richard Gephardts will be running the show in the not too distant future.

342 posted on 02/04/2006 10:56:57 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: ARCADIA; nwrep

What he (Arcadia) said!!!!!!!


343 posted on 02/04/2006 11:14:03 AM PST by raybbr (ANWR is a barren, frozen wasteland - like the mind of a democrat!)
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To: Tyche
"I think it's a mistake not to encourage more really bright folks who can fill the jobs that are having trouble being filled here in America, to limit their number. So I call upon Congress to be realistic and reasonable and raise that cap," Bush said, but did not say by how much he wanted the limit lifted.

He wants no limits.

And he said that Americans are stupid.

344 posted on 02/04/2006 11:14:32 AM PST by Penner
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To: Penner
He wants no limits.

This is also India's demand-- see my posts on this thread. It begs the question, who does Mr. Bush represent?
345 posted on 02/04/2006 11:29:34 AM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Tyche
High tech companies hire every talented person they can lay their hands on.

Once upon a time it was important to tell the truth, especially if you were the President of the USA. There are more unemployed engineers in America toady than their are engineering jobs for them in America. George Washington said he could not tell a lie, that yes indeed he chopped down the cherry tree. It's too bad modern politicians don't have the same standards of telling the truth.

346 posted on 02/04/2006 12:06:39 PM PST by SwordofTruth (God is good all the time.)
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To: SwordofTruth
There are more unemployed engineers in America toady than their are engineering jobs for them in America.

Please provide a source for this assertion. Thanks in advance.

347 posted on 02/04/2006 12:08:20 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: JasonC
You can sell your home for any price you like

You can only sell your home for market price or below. While you "own" it you get to pay large $ yearly to the governmental jurisdictions that claim a right (city, township, county, state) to tax your property or confiscate it. And then you get to pay taxes on the "gain" in price brought about by inflation, a predictable result of government policy. You still need a place to live - so you buy something similar, for a similar price, and get to pay the government some more $ to do the transaction.

Face it, we ordinary joes are feudal serfs, constantly being chewed on to a bare existence by the billionaire lords and their servants. So our lords see a cheaper source of labor overseas, then they order "our" government to let them import the labor. What, you think that there is a popular upwelling for H-1Bs?

348 posted on 02/04/2006 12:21:34 PM PST by GregoryFul
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To: Tyche

That's fine. And when the Prez asks me or mine to go die on foreign soil, I'll tell him to outsource that too.


349 posted on 02/04/2006 12:27:22 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: logician2u
Please!!!!! teach us little people basic economics.

We little people that voted for bush are still waiting for the job ship to come in. I know record profits are being reported and everyones portfolio is bursting.

But us little people are still taking the cute in our wages. I have worked the same job for the last 20 years, I am making 600.00 a month less this year over last.

Please tell me how through your basic economics 101, how to improve that?
350 posted on 02/04/2006 12:36:05 PM PST by Dewy (1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;)
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To: ARCADIA; raybbr
His economic actions are neither conservative nor capitalistic.

OK, I agree with the first part of your assertion, i.e. some of his economic policies run counter to traditional conservative principles. However, he is still avowedly a capitalist. In fact there has not been a more pro-business President, especially pro-Big Business, since Calvin Coolidge. Bush has taken the pro-Big business position on every issue, including the environment, taxes, investment, lawsuits, medical liability, OSHA, labor laws, etc.

Bush is about as far left as Lenin;

You know, you guys need to be a little more realistic when you hurl charges against Bush. Statements like this are just laughable and prevent you from being taken seriously. Read above re: Big-Business. I mean, if you want to criticize him, atleast get the facts right.

351 posted on 02/04/2006 12:37:48 PM PST by nwrep
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To: Non-Sequitur
My son (a junior in High School) has been watching what has been going on in the technology sector and has changed his mind from going to an technology engineering school to going to a college with a top notch nursing program. With his grades and his love of all things medical, he is going to strive for Physician's Assistant.

I think he's making a smart move.

352 posted on 02/04/2006 12:38:20 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Crime cannot be tolerated. Criminals thrive on the indulgences of society's understanding.)
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To: nwrep
However, he is still avowedly a capitalist

Considering our Nation established the supremacy of free enterprise as an economic system, we need an avowed free enterprise government to perpetuate it.

Capitalism was never in the lexicon of our founders, it never appeared in the English language until the late 1800s.
353 posted on 02/04/2006 12:43:43 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: maui_hawaii; JasonC
RE: "One side yells traitor and the other screams protectionist.. Its like two brick walls arguing with each other....that circle has been going round and round for several years. I am ready to end it."

End it. Boy! wouldn't that be great.

One thing I like about the pro-"globalization" New Democrat Third Way "progressives" site (ndol.org) is the acknowledgment that, yes American workers will be affected by "globalization" but we (the "all mighty government") should help them.

The mainline pro-"globalization" Republican response seems to be, yes they are affected. They should have been prepared for it. It's for the economy. Better jobs will be created -- until then, screw the whining socialists (Marxists?) who see government as their mommy.

Those are both subjective opinions.

The point: Wouldn't it be nice to acknowledge that yes there are many American workers affected by ILLEGAL/legal immigration and offshore outsourcing?

Furthermore, yes the economy is doing great! But! many American workers are nevertheless uneasy and wondering how far will this go before "globalization" nails them.

Good question.

I remember the early 1990s movie, Falling Down. The advent of the "angry white man." Well now it ain't just white men; though compared to most of the app. 150,000,000 employed men and women there are few of them -- but they are real.

(Personally, I see the internationalist, Davos, New Democrat Third Way "rules-based" -- their rules -- "free trade" globalization as a Marxist revolution from the top down. Transnational corporations already kowtow to the WTO -- soon the WTO will be enforcing "social justice" -- according to the "rules." Got rope?)

354 posted on 02/04/2006 12:43:59 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (Hillary is the she in shenanigans.)
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To: maui_hawaii
Keep the cap and get tax reform. There is plenty of talent right here, right now.

I agree on both counts!

If we were to replace our current communist inspired, class warfare promoting, tax code with something like that proposed in Fairtax bill (HR25/S25) currently before the house ways and means committee we would see an expansion of economic activity in this country the likes of which no person alive today has ever seen and our home grown talent would be in far greater demand as a result!

355 posted on 02/04/2006 12:44:10 PM PST by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: JasonC
There have been vast technological changes since the 70's that have given us lots of things at very low prices. Yes, most of us live more comfortably than the lords of the 17th century - and we earned it; through the labor of our forefathers and our own labors, and bloody fights with the ruling class, the power elite. We've almost maintained our own, but our children and grandchildren are going to take it on the chin unless we get and retain an equitable share of the wealth we have produced over the last century. That will not happen unless we fight for it.
356 posted on 02/04/2006 12:57:52 PM PST by GregoryFul
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To: OpusatFR

He has, which is why I have written him off other than the WOT.

At times, he seems like Damien Thorn re-incarnated.


357 posted on 02/04/2006 1:00:38 PM PST by chris1
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To: Drango

Or leaarn a trade and become a good business person. For most males, going to a 4 year college is insane. Go 2 years and take the basics at a community college, spend two years learing a trade and off you go.


358 posted on 02/04/2006 1:03:11 PM PST by chris1
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To: TXBSAFH

Ann Richards saying: "GWB was born on third base and thought he hit a triple" seems very true nowadays.


359 posted on 02/04/2006 1:08:40 PM PST by chris1
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To: thirst4truth

If your son has any brains, he will go in his own business in the trades or related fields and offer the best customer service around. He will earn far far more if he does that than begs some company for a job.

A good plumber or electrician today is FARRRR better off than a schumck looking to work for someone else.


360 posted on 02/04/2006 1:11:08 PM PST by chris1
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