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Alito's First Ruling Isn't Encouraging (Soutered again?)
Sierra Times ^ | 2/3/2006 | Lee R. Shelton IV

Posted on 02/03/2006 1:05:52 PM PST by FerdieMurphy

Imagine yourself in the stands at the Kentucky Derby. A new horse by the name of President's Choice, a strong thoroughbred that racing aficionados have been talking about, is favored to win. "And they're off!"

Now imagine everyone's shock when the gates fly open and the odds-on favorite starts running the wrong way. We saw something similar last night.

Samuel Alito, the "conservative" judicial nominee over whom all good little Republicans were drooling, cast his first vote as the nation's newest black-robed oligarch. This morning's edition of the Washington Post reported: "New Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito split with the court's conservatives Wednesday night, refusing to let Missouri execute a death-row inmate contesting lethal injection.

"Alito, handling his first case, sided with inmate Michael Taylor, who had won a stay from an appeals court earlier in the evening. Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas supported lifting the stay, but Alito joined the remaining five members in turning down Missouri's last-minute request to allow a midnight execution. ..."

Is this what "conservatives" were hoping for when President Bush nominated Alito to the Supreme Court? I doubt it. But perhaps I'm rushing to judgment (pardon the pun). Who is this Michael Taylor anyway? As a Jan. 27 article in the Columbia Missourian explains, Taylor was "sentenced to death after being convicted of the rape and murder of 15-year-old Ann Harrison on March 22, 1989."

Okay, so the defense must have discovered some new DNA evidence that casts a reasonable doubt on Taylor's guilt, right? Not really. The article continues: "A federal judge last week issued a stay of Taylor's Feb. 1 execution in response to his lawyer's request for a hearing to present evidence challenging the lethal injection process. …Taylor's lawyer, John William Simon of St. Louis, has since filed a federal court action arguing that the three drugs the state uses in executions create a risk of gratuitous pain that is not necessary to carry out "the mere extinguishment of life."

Let's see if I understand this. The case before the Supreme Court yesterday had nothing to do with using the normal appeals process to examine new evidence that had come to light. In fact, it had nothing at all to do with determining Taylor's guilt or innocence. It was all about the method of execution? Was Taylor's lawyer able to interview death row inmates who had been executed by lethal injection to see what they had to say?

Michael Taylor has already spent the last 17 years living on taxpayer expense. That's two years longer than the girl he kidnapped, raped and killed had her entire life. Now, the Supreme Court of the United States wants to stand in the way of justice simply because the drugs used to carry out an execution may not provide the condemned murderer with the comfort he expects when paying the price for his brutal crime.

I find this rather odd. When this country was young, no one questioned the constitutionality of death by hanging or firing squad. But now, in the 21st century, we find ourselves debating whether or not the act of sedating murderers before executing them is cruel and unusual punishment.

At the very least, that should be left for the states to decide. After all, not every state has the death penalty, so there is obviously still some consideration given to the concept of states' rights. I think it is perfectly reasonable to conclude that if individual states are able to decide whether or not they will implement capital punishment, then they should be allowed to determine the means of execution.

The fact that Samuel Alito chose to side with the liberals on the Court in a ruling that tramples on states' rights is cause for concern. Those who threw their enthusiastic support behind George W. Bush's nominee may wake up one morning to find that they have been duped yet again, and the nation's highest court has another Souter on its hands.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy
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To: NapkinUser
He voted to allow a STAY of execution to continue until it expires. When it does, Alito will let the execution go through.

I don't think that's what's going on.

I believe Taylor's (cruel and unusual based) appeal is at the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals which will hear arguments.

If they grant or deny the appeal, Missouri or Taylor gets to appeal and the hysterical folks just might get what they want--an 8th Amendment case where Alito gets to please or horrify us with an actual vote and opinion on the matter.

Two other similar cases are in Florida, both of which were stayed by the SC.

Of course, I could be wrong.

121 posted on 02/03/2006 2:44:08 PM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: FerdieMurphy

I have it from a very good source that Alito is a lot more liberal than people realize. There will be a lot of very surprised people.


122 posted on 02/03/2006 2:55:01 PM PST by Krankor (T)
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To: untrained skeptic

Oh, it's not "angry rhetoric". I have confidence in Alito. MikeinIraq stalks me so I like to raise his blood pressure. But this "courtesy" thing, if so, is ludicrous, and runs counter to the claims by Alito and his backers (including me) that he will rule based on the Constitution. "Being courteous" is not part of Constitutional law.


123 posted on 02/03/2006 3:02:26 PM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: bad company; All
Gee. I guess this hasn't been trolled to death already.

Retread troll denied stay of execution

124 posted on 02/03/2006 3:07:30 PM PST by dighton
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To: FerdieMurphy

Debunked cr@p


125 posted on 02/03/2006 3:19:03 PM PST by indcons
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To: dighton

LOL, that's spot on!


126 posted on 02/03/2006 3:46:30 PM PST by xsmommy
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To: MarcusTulliusCicero
You apparently haven't heard about the incorporation clause of the 14th Amendment that requires that federal protections also apply to the states.

I have indeed heard of that worthless, baseless clause. A clause that was not 'found' until 1897, thirty years after the passage of the 14th Amendment. A clause that only applies to the Amendments where this mysterious clause has been applied. A clause that must be overturned if there is a hope to return to a Constitutional Republic

Lincoln even tried to justify the war by claiming that it wasn't the states that gave rise to the Union but that the Union gave rise to the States..

Yes and a famous 20th century leader (non-US) fully agreed with him. Care to guess which tyrant did?

127 posted on 02/03/2006 3:53:19 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: billbears

Until you either repeal the relevant clause of the 14th Amendment or get the Supreme Court to reinterpret it, your original complaint is baseless. Under the current interpretation, the case in question is under the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court. To pretend otherwise is to simply ignore the reality of the situation.


128 posted on 02/03/2006 4:00:52 PM PST by MarcusTulliusCicero
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To: All

What...utter.....

Here's my recommendation.

There are two roads you can take.

Wily Coyote off the cliff, or sanity.

First road meets Souter, second meets a solid Justice who is what he presented himself to be. Justic Alito that will respect the Constitution, rather than follow the path of the activists.

Why I'm on the thread, I don't know. 'Cause I'm not going to spend years reassuring some folks that evidently don't trust their own prior judgements about Alito because he dares to do as he said he would do.

Unbelieveable.


129 posted on 02/03/2006 4:20:00 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
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To: MarcusTulliusCicero
Under the current interpretation, the case in question is under the jurisdiction of the Supreme Court. To pretend otherwise is to simply ignore the reality of the situation.

And to continue nominating judges that see the 14th Amendment as untouchable is to pretend at conservatism and falsely claiming an 'originalist' view. There were judges available and on the short list that, and some may have, agreed fully with this sentiment. And who did Bush pick? A big government hack that will agree with Republican principle. Not a conservative

130 posted on 02/03/2006 4:30:43 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: xsmommy
do you know exactly was argued and held here in this case? do you KNOW what alito voted ON?

Nothing was "held"-- there was no written opinion. It's not at all clear that the Supreme Court will even hear the case. What happened is that the inmate appealed to the 8th Circuit. The 8th Circuit granted a stay of execution so it could hear the case. Only after the 8th Circuit decides the case will the Supreme Court have the chance to decide to hear the case or not.

After the 8th Circuit granted a stay of execution, the State prosecutor asked the Supreme Court to reverse the 8th Circuit's stay of execution. The Supreme Court technically has the power to do that, but doesn't do it very often, because, by definition, they haven't heard the merits of the case yet and may never hear them.

The Court voted 6-3 to deny the prosecutor's motion to overturn the stay; Alito voted with the majority, Roberts, Scalia and Thomas dissented. No one wrote any opinions.

131 posted on 02/03/2006 4:40:57 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

i know that. it was a rhetorical question to those going off halfcocked on this, when the jumping to a SOUTER conclusion has been debunked, REPEATEDLY.


132 posted on 02/03/2006 4:45:04 PM PST by xsmommy
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
Mike, you always seem to make a greater fool out of yourself with every post.

I don't think you are in any position to be calling someone a fool.

133 posted on 02/03/2006 4:48:10 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: California Patriot
But the pledge to provide a free vote to review death-penalty cases as a matter of courtesy, regardless of his own judgment, is terrible.

It's also been standard procedure of the Supreme Court for decades.

Breathe.
134 posted on 02/03/2006 5:04:57 PM PST by Terpfen (72-25: The Democrats mounted a failibuster!)
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To: FerdieMurphy

Relax, everyone, it's only one ruling.


135 posted on 02/03/2006 5:44:21 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (John Paul Stevens for retirement)
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To: MikeinIraq

I do not think YET anyway that Alito will be a Souter II. I expect the next appointee to be Souter II!!!!! Still pessimistic with cause, awaiting Alberto Gonzalez, whose name translates to "David Souter."


136 posted on 02/03/2006 9:54:34 PM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: Terpfen

If you're right, fine.

But there is nothing wrong with vigilance to the point of anxiety. I have to make up for all the complacency on our side. When you win one, it's natural to think you've won more than you have.


137 posted on 02/03/2006 9:58:43 PM PST by California Patriot
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To: Theodore R.


Nonsense, TR.

The democrats would have to first win a senate majority before they could even try to force another Souter type on this president.


138 posted on 02/03/2006 9:59:39 PM PST by onyx
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To: FerdieMurphy
...refusing to let Missouri execute a death-row inmate contesting lethal injection.

Gosh, all YOU'VE done is prove you're too dense to find out the FACTS.

You got suckered!

139 posted on 02/03/2006 10:04:12 PM PST by Howlin (Why don't you just report the news, instead of what might be the news? - Donald Rumsfeld 1/25/2006)
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To: FerdieMurphy
Alito voted with the left-wing, pinko, commie "justices."

FOOL!


140 posted on 02/03/2006 10:11:04 PM PST by Howlin (Why don't you just report the news, instead of what might be the news? - Donald Rumsfeld 1/25/2006)
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