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NBC: 5 Southern Baptist churches in Alabama set afire. More to come...
MSNBC ^ | February 3, 2006

Posted on 02/03/2006 6:23:02 AM PST by precedence

More to come....


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: baptist; church; churchburning; southernbaptist
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To: The South Texan
"It's Southern Baptists so it won't count as a hate crime on the media scale. Now if they were mosques......"

...or abortion clinics...or GLADD offices...or PETA HQ, etc.

Christians get low priority on the hate scale...like white males.

241 posted on 02/03/2006 11:03:08 AM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American (Keep the adults in charge of Congress.)
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To: VRWCmember

"I was really sort of poking fun at a breaking news post that consists of a headline, with no story that promises "more to come". Since there was no story at all, I figured the "more to come" must be a prediction of additional arsonist activities."

Sorry about that....that should have been clear but I'm a little fuzzy today - working extra all week to make sure I get the whole weekend free.


242 posted on 02/03/2006 11:04:14 AM PST by gondramB (Democracy: two wolves and a lamb voting on lunch. Liberty: a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: jw777

Whether or not it was a hate crime, I know we won't hear it being possibly a hate crime from gays.


243 posted on 02/03/2006 11:04:18 AM PST by Sensei Ern (Now, IB4Z! http://www.myspace.com/reconcomedy/ "Cowards cut and run. Heroes never do!")
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To: WKB

This is such a terrible thing!! I couldn't believe it when I heard it on the news this morning.

I hope whoever did it left plenty of clues for investigators. I wonder if they will be charged with a hate crime? I'm not going to hold my breath though.


244 posted on 02/03/2006 11:05:15 AM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping List Freepmail me if you want on or off this ping list.)
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To: jw777

"I agree, but if it were 5 synagogues or 5 mosques, it would be hate crime central coverage."

Yep. Big time media double standard. For that matter this won't get the same press as if it were 5 black Baptist churches.


245 posted on 02/03/2006 11:05:34 AM PST by gondramB (Democracy: two wolves and a lamb voting on lunch. Liberty: a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: sageb1

Yes--evil is often simple. ..my first thought is a firebug, and firebugs like churches. But Southern Baptist churches? It speaks to an agenda. And six at once? Someone wants attn.


246 posted on 02/03/2006 11:14:06 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: gondramB
"I'm not hearing HATE CRIME in the MSM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Que Moose and the APB for the Angry White Man in a White Box Van" (nobody POSTED that yet??)

247 posted on 02/03/2006 11:16:06 AM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: One Wing to Rule them All and to the Darkside Bind them)
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To: jw777
"I agree, but if it were 5 synagogues or 5 mosques, it would be hate crime central coverage."

Your information is old. It hasn't been a hate crime to torch a synagogue in YEARS.

248 posted on 02/03/2006 11:18:42 AM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: One Wing to Rule them All and to the Darkside Bind them)
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To: cake_crumb
Did I just hear someone on FNC (don't know if that's what you watch) say it is possible that more than one person could be involved? If that was true, what about the contruction company itself? I have absolutely no info on who or how many were working on the first church that burned. I am only basing a theory on someone else's prior post. I have no facts. It was just a thought.
249 posted on 02/03/2006 11:20:06 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: All
Many of these churches were Historic landmarks that are now gone. Luckily one 100 year old church was saved.

Rehobeth Baptist Church was built in 1819 -- it has been completely destroyed.

Ashby Baptist Church was established in the 1870's, but it is unclear if the building is still the original building. I doubt it is as it looks like a brick building in the pictures I posted.

Old Union Baptist Church was built in 1886, and it suffered damage to furniture and carpeting. The fire was started in 2 flower pots below and American Flag that hangs in the sanctuary. Luckily two church members that live nearby had been called about the other fires that were happening and got to the church shortly after the fire there was set.

250 posted on 02/03/2006 11:22:30 AM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: OB1kNOb
Uh-huh. Do you honestly think I've never encountered the work of JM Carroll and his fictionalized history before?

Look, I respect the SBC as serious Christians whose Anabaptist forbears were undoubtedly persecuted for their theological convictions. The SBC is one of the few organizations in the world standing between civilization and utter ruin today.

Inventing secret histories and conspiracy theories is entirely unnecessary and counterproductive and does nothing to burnish Bible believers' credentials.

My trust is in Him and in Him only, not in any church made up and ran by regular sinful humans, nor in any other authority of man's making.

I feel the exact same way, and I don't need to pretend that the Montanist and Albigensian pagans were actually Christians in order to make that claim.

251 posted on 02/03/2006 11:25:04 AM PST by wideawake
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To: commish
One cannot discount that these may be cooking accidents. After all if there is one thing we Southern Baptist's are known for it is our Pot Luck gatherings ;-)

But it's not Wednesday.

252 posted on 02/03/2006 11:25:34 AM PST by Sally'sConcerns (Native Texan now in SW Ok.)
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To: wideawake
"My trust is in Him and in Him only, not in any church made up and ran by regular sinful humans, nor in any other authority of man's making."

"I feel the exact same way, "

Good. I'm relieved to know that.

253 posted on 02/03/2006 11:30:47 AM PST by OB1kNOb (I'm really not 50. I'm just 49.95 plus tax.)
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To: Space Wrangler
In the ABC version of the story:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=1576803

But Ingram said the fires late Thursday and early Friday destroyed both the churches of predominantly black congregations and predominantly white congregations.

How near is this to Birmingham? Isn't there a large Islamic "training camp" type setup there? I remember it from about 2 years ago when a former black panther leader was involved in shoot out. He had converted either in or after leaving prison and was working with an islamic community in rural Alabama near there.

254 posted on 02/03/2006 11:41:30 AM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: OB1kNOb
What I am concerned about is where our most famous So. Baptist, Jimmy Carter, Al Gore and Bill Clinton are hiding.

You would think that they would be screaming bloody murder.
255 posted on 02/03/2006 11:41:42 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: Another Thought

"I'm Southern Baptist and the "split" you are referring to is news to me. I might add I'm an active Southern Baptist. Our splits usually only mean that more churches will be started, not burnt down."

News to me. It is a farily quiet denomination overall. We're busy building new churches.

SBC churches tend to accurately reflect the surrounding area racial makeup.


256 posted on 02/03/2006 11:52:00 AM PST by TexanToTheCore (Rock the pews, Baby)
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To: mariabush
What I am concerned about is where our most famous So. Baptist, Jimmy Carter, Al Gore and Bill Clinton are hiding. You would think that they would be screaming bloody murder.

Oh, and don't forget the Baptist minister, the Rev-u-rund a-Jessie a-Jack...son....

257 posted on 02/03/2006 11:53:08 AM PST by OB1kNOb (I'm really not 50. I'm just 49.95 plus tax.)
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To: Husker24

Since the article doesn't mention race, I assume these aren't Black churches. If they were I guess it would be the biggest news story of the year.

Let's see who the suspects might be. A disgruntled Loner, perhaps? Disaffected youthful 'vandals'?


258 posted on 02/03/2006 12:09:44 PM PST by San Jacinto
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To: OldArmy94
I am not a Baptist but do attend a Baptist church when I travel to see my brother in TN. From what I have seen, the members are wonderful and help one another. More than I can say for the membership of my church.
259 posted on 02/03/2006 12:14:21 PM PST by jerry639
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To: Phsstpok

It is about 40 miles from downtown Birmingham. It is the rural fringes of the outermost suburbs.


260 posted on 02/03/2006 12:21:07 PM PST by del4hope (It is time to dust off US sedition and treason laws.)
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